Big trees open thread
If you ever find yourself getting caught up in the trivial affairs of human beings, I highly recommend a visit to northern California. Standing at the base of a tree more than 2000 years old is both a humbling and inspiring experience. Here's hoping the ancient redwoods remain standing despite the devastation wrought by We the People. Here's wishing that our misguided species had one tenth of their wisdom.
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Oh Canada
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Those are not the biggetst trees
in CA.
I know it's a full day trip but if possible visit Yosemite.
Humboldt
is definitely gawk-worthy.
The dangers of democracy
From PPP via The Barkeep
Plus a good round up on the last throes of the legislature.
The question of government
So leave the political decisions up to the ignorant masses, grant an intellectual/financial oligarchy the power to rule, or severely restrict the powers of the government through a written constitution and pray that it is magically followed.
Or think outside the box.
Democrats smart on managing criminal justice system
Republicans dumb, as usual. A good "framing" comment in the discussion.
http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_the_dome/sentencing_changes_pass
The biggest trees in CA / the world are in Sequoia National Park
Not as tall as the Redwoods, yet in girth they are the largest trees in the world. Yosemite, as per OG's comment hosts some large trees, yet not anywhere the size of a Sequoia. However, in my opinion there is no place I've yet visited on this lovely planet that can match the Yosemite Valley for sheer beauty.
James, my son and I used to camp, fish, hike and enjoy the beauty of Sequoia National and Yosemite National every summer from the time he was 10 until he was 15. He simply couldn't get enough. So many places in each park to go, hike, fish, etc. that he and I didn't question where we would go. We talked about which part of the park we would go to.
BTW, the oldest trees in the world are in Inyo National Forest, just on the other side of the mountains in the desert. They are the Bristle Cone Pines.
Largest, tallest and oldest trees in the world all in one state.
SAVE California! ;-)
North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!
California is in deep doo-doo
Their morass of propositions and anti-tax fervor are at risk of turning the state into a basket case.
But in some ways, that's good. I can't handle crowds (which is why we avoid Yosemite, for all its beauty, like the plague). In the redwoods area, tourism was way down. Lots of parks and museums shuttered for lack of funds. As California goes, so goes the nation?
California is screwed and has been since they so stupidly
recalled Grey Davis in 2003. I had lived here since '96, however I was working as a consultant for Bumble Bee Seafood in San Diego at the time. The State is filled with Democrats, yet once the recall passed, the Republicans got ballsy. They have been in "NO" mode since 2003.
As California goes, so goes the nation?
North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!
Trees are the coolest things
I once wrote this little piece back in the day.
There cannot fail to be more kinds of things, as nature grows further disclosed. - Sir Francis Bacon
Beautiful, thanks for sharing this.
n/t
Really big trees
Trees have "wisdom"? If that's what you mean, can I have some of your mushrooms?
I'd say it this way
The redwoods have been around for 20 million years and haven't yet screwed up the earth in any way. Human beings, on the other hand, have managed to destroy almost everything around them in the blink of an eye. Do you subscribe to the belief that there is something inherently superior or, perhaps even wise, about a species that leaves this in its wake?
How many other trees...
..have been shaded out of existence by better-adapted redwoods?
Would the Earth be the wondrous treasure of life that it is today were it not for the climate changes wrought by some of the earliest life forms?
How many trees have been killed by beavers in their quest to survive?
Is a lion 'wrong' to kill one of the last remaining members of a prey species?
The beauty of humanity is that without us there would be neither an 'environmentalist' ethic nor self-loathing organisms. Apparently you believe there is something inherently inferior or unwise about the way that humans have conducted themselves. But it cannot be inherent - only through the unique and subjective process of reasoning available only to humans can such a concept exist.
Otherwise, at what point in the evolution of human beings would we become culpable (individually, or as a species) for our actions with respect to the environment insofar as they violate a universal ethical or aesthetic environmentalist norm? Are other mammals 'wrong' to colonize a new island? How intelligent do they need to be before it becomes immoral?
Is it possible for any other organism to "screw up" the Earth besides humans, according to whatever criteria you have James? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that no other species could possibly "screw up" the earth since they are a part of "nature" and we are not (according to the most enlightened segments of society), which greatly diminishes the impact of the conclusion that humans are the only species that have "screwed up" the earth!
Well thank God for creating humans so this problem could be properly identified! Or is God to blame for creating us to begin with? Or is there a God at all?
PS: Those trees really are amazing. I can't wait to see them in person some day.
As has been demonstrated
through the studies of numerous ruined ecosystems across the planet, we have the knowledge and power to (maybe accidentally) destroy life on a global scale. Luckily, we also have the knowledge and power to regulate our behavior to minimize that destruction. But we must be made to recognize and understand the mistakes we make, or we won't change our behavior.
asdf
Your points about evolution are well taken, to a degree. All species, including ours, are in it for themselves. We seem somewhat inept in comparison to others in that we seem capable of poisoning our own habitats, thereby threatening our own existence.
Of course we are part of nature. But through some evolutionary mutation, we carry the delusion that we are special. Outside of the ability to have that delusion, we are not, in my opinion, special in any meaningful way. We are animals, and not very smart ones at that, which was my original point about wisdom.
If our species exists at all 20 million years from now, I will be surprised. And I will be here to know. I'm coming back as corn.