BJ Wins! BJ Wins! BJ Wins! Huh?
Submitted by MaxTheDog2 on Wed, 05/07/2008 - 7:31pm.
US CONGRESS DISTRICT 04 - REP (Vote For 1) Vote Type Summary Contest Detail Map
4 of 4 Counties Reporting
Percent Votes
Augustus Cho (REP) 29.45% 9,718
William (B.J.) Lawson (REP) 70.55% 23,285
33,003
Question? How did BJ do this amazing political trick with dumb down republicians in the district?
Answer? Simple! How many dumb-down Republicans think a Asia name on a republican primary ballot is a sneak attack by the Chinese communists with a Roman King's name?
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Absolutely not.
I don't think this is the case at all. Augustus Cho was well-known to Republicans, a former county chair in Orange County, columnist with the Chapel Hill News, and he was given (IMO) free reign from the local press to lash out at BJ in their articles. I honestly do not think this was due to racism.
Cho was the establishment candidate. BJ worked hard, had volunteers canvassing, got important endorsements and ran some great radio ads with those, had a great website where he actually talked to voters, and overall ran a great campaign.
This was not due to racism on the part of the GOP-- how could Cho be elected as county chair and be put forth as the preferred establishment candidate if they were all racist against him? It doesn't make any sense.
It was a good, sound drubbing on the part of BJ. He won fairly, in a landslide.
It's amazing what happens when you give the voters a CHOICE
The voters aren't necessarily dumbed-down, they're just used to dumbed-down candidates who aren't allowed to be honest and think for themselves.
Continued enslavement to perpetual wars, taxation through inflation, a declining paper currency, and loss of civil liberties? No, thanks.
Peace, prosperity, and liberty though a federal government that follows the Constitution? Yeah, I think I'll try that for a (real) change (we can believe in).
Wonder if this message will begin resonating through the broader GOP?
http://blog.lawsonforcongress.com/2008/05/07/earth-to-gop/
And I wonder if Obama knows you're not supposed to end sentences with prepositions? Or is "change in which we can believe" just too stuffy?
:-)
William (B.J.) Lawson
Congressional Candidate, North Carolina's 4th District
Masters of language
have all the right in the world to take liberties with formal construction, BJ. You know that.
J
PS You can stop wondering if your message will begin resonating through the broader GOP. The GOP is increasingly indistinguishable from the COC (Chamber of Commerce), as is the Democratic Party, I'm afraid. You're riding a horse that's not going in the direction you want.
PPS. I forgot to say
Congratulations! Good job.
I wasn't aware that "masters
I wasn't aware that "masters of language" get free reign over the English language (although that's fine with me). How do I get certified as one of these? I had a fellow English major attack me on here once for (gasp!) using a noun as a verb in a commonly accepted usage that she didn't like. I guess she didn't consider me a master of language.
Whether the GOP is going BJ's way or not, it's a good sign that he won the primary. His opponent sounded like Bush/Cheney redux, although not as intelligent :)
Dept of Correction
In NC we end a sentence with a deposition.
I thought that's where the sentence started Greg.
:)
Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
Pointing at Naked Emperors
It works both ways
But an execution is irreversible. :(
Which is why we keep on deposing,
and pray to god the NC Medical Board keeps its doctors from participating in the nightmare of state sanctioned murder.
Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
Pointing at Naked Emperors
Nanny Grammer Correction The Hard Time Way?
Dept of Correction
In NC we end a sentence with a deposition.*gregflynn
For The State: Now Speaker Black! Where did you say the men's restroom was at IHOP?
Speaker Black: I have no idea! I believe IHOP is one of those TV buying channels on cable.
For The State: Speaker Black! Are you saying you bought a Republican on Cable?
Speaker Black: What is a Republican?
Well, you know, B.J.
you owe your success to your exposure here on BlueNC. I mean....we are the go-to site for Libertarian Republicans. :D Congratulations.
Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.
BJ! Pay Attention closely Son?
And I wonder if Obama knows you're not supposed to end sentences with prepositions? Or is "change in which we can believe" just too stuffy?* BJ
I have no idea how Obama writes, except that he is not your usual presidental candiate with a high power law degree. You should be ashame of yourself for trying to stick Max with the grammer BS that that GOP thugs try to do to Max on the net for the past 5 years. Max is a persona designed to be a dog and mixed with the George Bush persona if he had access to the " internets"....Frankly BJ! I know the 4 th district backwards and forwards with it's GOP mind-set voters and how they vote. You chances against Congressman Price are none and more none. Sure, you work hard and took flack from the retarded faction of the local Art Pope faction, but to claim that no racism exists in the local GOP is beyond the pale of Jesse Helms best day at a Klan meeting. You should take the advice from the below comment and start working toward the future with real results in a real world of politics or either prepare yourself and family for the worst when this system totaly collapes. One one word of advice! Do not start to believe your press clipping, that is truly a sign that you are in trouble as they say in big leaque sports. You got a lot of growing up to do in politics and the sooner one drives a stake though the Republican party and kills it. The better off the Republic will be for the true seekers of liberty. [wink,wink]
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Dear Jim,
What you say about a third party is true. We need to concentrate efforts there and devote ourselves to not worrying about minor things but on putting this country back on track if we are ever to turn things around.
Dr. Ron Paul is an admirable man and I wish we had more leaders who were like him in Washington, D.C. and in our state. With all due respect, however, he is not the man to lead the third-party movement. And I am dismayed Dr. Paul's remarks about saving the Republican Party. It has degenerated so much that the time has come to kill it, not save it. From its ashes, perhaps a new party can arise. Even if it remains, I think the rule of threes in business applies equally to politics. With two parties, we have a duopoly or shared monopoly. With three parties, the added party will shift allegiances on various issues and will keep the other two parties on their toes. We need someone like Jesse Ventura to head up the third-party. He has stature and vigor.
I know this seems selfish, but Connie and I are focusing on our personal health and our personal lives as we neglected many things during my campaigns for office. I will have to decline your invitation at this time. However, you can add me to your email list. Use this email address: eriessa_marius@hotmail.com.
Rachel Lea Hunter
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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008
RE: Ask Madame Justice
From: North Carolinians Against Real ID (info@ncard.info)
We can still work for a third party, I am sure it is still possible for a third party. We just have to work harder and smarter. Ask Rachel if she we liked to be involved in our fight. We have no political affiliations but nearly everyone is a Ron Paul supporter. If she just wants to sign up for our action alerts to watch our progress, she is welcome to that that as well.
Starting a third party in
Starting a third party in this day and age is not anything like it was in Abraham Lincoln's day or the days of the Whigs. The two parties in power figured out at one point that they could create laws to keep themselves in power. It's worked out well for them.
If you really want the GOP to die, you should be working hard to support the Green Party and Libertarian Party's lawsuit against the state this week. The Green Party is broke, but the Libertarian Party has exhausted a lot of resources on this lawsuit and on getting the necessary signatures to get on the ballot in November, all because of a legislature that apparently doesn't really believe in democracy.
Actually having third parties to vote for is going to be the only way either of the two major parties (or one major party, as Mike Munger would say) will die.
We also need proportional representation. Everyone wants to look to Europe for everything except the one thing they get really right, ballot access and proportional representation laws.
Libgirl! pay attention or go to the ancient history corner
Starting a third party
Starting a third party in this day and age is not anything like it was in Abraham Lincoln's day or the days of the Whigs. The two parties in power figured out at one point that they could create laws to keep themselves in power. It's worked out well for them.*libgirl
Not Really! You are repeating the Big lie BS from the Republican Conservative wing of the party. 3 rd parties do win. A classic example was Jesse Ventura victory in 98 against all odds. The Governor of Maine independent bid the same year confirmed that real and repected Third parties with a solid foundation can win and even set the agenda for the future for Freedom. You are a child and no nothing of the freedom movement in this county nor historial challenges of 3 rd parties that have won. What do you think the same old party line of Gobbles misinformation keeps pounding that it can's be done, including your Cult worship of Dr Paul. You are a newby and the greatest growth is in independent voters which leaping beyond your wildest paradise program libertarian dreams in massive numbers.
If you really want the GOP to die, you should be working hard to support the Green Party and Libertarian Party's lawsuit against the state this week.*libgirl
We did my dear. We offer to fund the lawsuit totaly. 25 grand! Guess what! We got attack by your stupid psychopath Eric Smith who was a lib at that time and on the board of the party. We told them either to drop that Lunatic who is a nobody or forget it! They told us to screw off and would keep Eric as a trusted leader. You had him at your recent meeting with Dr No and BJ. Stupidity breeds more stupidity with your recent decision to associate with idiots.....
The Green Party is broke, but the Libertarian Party has exhausted a lot of resources on this lawsuit and on getting the necessary signatures to get on the ballot in November, all because of a legislature that apparently doesn't really believe in democracy.*libgirl
The Libertarian party is not the answer to a real third party. After 40 years, it is nothing more than a neutaralizer in politics to protect the foundation of the other 2 major parties.
Actually having third parties to vote for is going to be the only way either of the two major parties (or one major party, as Mike Munger would say) will die8libgirl .
Mike Munger is a tool of Art Pope and the conservative racist wing of the Republican retarded party. Do you know who founded the Liberterian Party of North Carolina? Art Pope!
We also need proportional representation. Everyone wants to look to Europe for everything except the one thing they get really right, ballot access and proportional representation laws.*libgirl
Anything from European politics was totaly rejected by our founders and though the 1880's when finally the Empire wing of both parties began it's quest for a new Empire in the 20th century and finally the American Empire is falling apart like all Empires do in the end.......You have much to learn.........
fusion voting
People who want to break the "two party monopoly" would do well to pursue fusion voting. Fusion voting would give third party activists a way to demonstrate viability and begin building traction and support.
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Ballot Access in NC
North Carolina is ranked as the third hardest state for ballot access in the United States. Currently for a new party to gain access, they would have to gather 69,734 valid signatures, which equates to appro. 100,000 total sigs. The current national average is 15,000 with the high being 100,000 in Oklahoma and there not being any requirements in several states.
The NC Green Party and Libertarian Parties have a lawsuit now in Superior Court which will reduce this number. The trial was earlier this week and a ruling is expected in the next week or so.
"jump in where you can and hang on"
Briscoe Darling to Sheriff Andy
Will you let us know the outcome?
Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
Pointing at Naked Emperors
Congrats, BJ :)
That's a pretty impressive margin.
I do think the BlueNC exposure
pushed me over the top -- no question. And James, feel free to post that Political Salon liveblog if it's still around, or perhaps we can get together for another discussion :-).
MaxTheDog2, don't worry about my believing my press clippings, because there really aren't any. I guess that's what happens when the N&O starts seeking early retirement for 200 of its 900 employees. Earned media is quite a challenge in this business.
I do think that neoconservatism is a cancer that has killed the Republican party. Hopefully we can treat it aggressively before it kills the country. My hope is that we can get some good people into the GOP who *do* care about the issues, and are interested in working for principled change. We also need good people in the Democratic party who are likewise motivated, and not just taking orders from the Democratic establishment. (Yes, that includes Mr. Price. Why did he support HR 1955? Why are we still borrowing and printing ourselves into economic oblivion? Why are we still fighting a failed federal War on Drugs? When will we realize that our entitlement burden is unsustainable?)
It seems like the only hope for our country is people on both sides of the boat pulling the oars together, instead of bashing each other over the head under orders from The Establishment as our boat drifts towards Niagara Falls...
Looking forward to continuing the conversation,
BJ
William (B.J.) Lawson
Congressional Candidate, North Carolina's 4th District
BJ! Your GOP attention span is short like your failed party!
I do think the BlueNC exposure
pushed me over the top -- no question. And James, feel free to post that Political Salon liveblog if it's still around, or perhaps we can get together for another discussion :-).*BJ
Maybe! I doubt that any Democrat voted in your primary. But Blue NC gave you a platform to express your views, unlike the Art Pope phony sites.
MaxTheDog2, don't worry about my believing my press clippings, because there really aren't any. I guess that's what happens when the N&O starts seeking early retirement for 200 of its 900 employees. Earned media is quite a challenge in this business.*BJ
BJ! Nobody said anything about the local media giving you press. Your own little group was blowing up your competitor as a unbeatable force in Art Pope politics. Do you really believe that a large mega media corporation that controls 5 major newspapers in South Carolina and North Carolina cares about it's employees or your little known politics in their bottom line eyes?
I do think that neoconservatism is a cancer that has killed the Republican party. Hopefully we can treat it aggressively before it kills the country. My hope is that we can get some good people into the GOP who *do* care about the issues, and are interested in working for principled change. We also need good people in the Democratic party who are likewise motivated, and not just taking orders from the Democratic establishment. (Yes, that includes Mr. Price. Why did he support HR 1955? Why are we still borrowing and printing ourselves into economic oblivion? Why are we still fighting a failed federal War on Drugs? When will we realize that our entitlement burden is unsustainable?)* BJ
Good Grief BJ! Do you not understand that the GOP is a walking around dead Ghost that frightens any person or voter away from it? Congressman Price support is very deep and wide ranging from the present establishment. Your vote will be 29% to 33% [The present base of the Republican party] in the end and after 3 months nobody will ever remember you or what office you ran for...Is it true that you gave the State GOP 250 buck[federal reserve notes] to run that stupid Linda Daves anti-Obama racist Ad last week?
It seems like the only hope for our country is people on both sides of the boat pulling the oars together, instead of bashing each other over the head under orders from The Establishment as our boat drifts towards Niagara Falls...*BJ
BJ! You are in the GOP backup Titanic lifeboats and already drowned.
Looking forward to continuing the conversation* BJ
When Congressman Price attacks his only republican oppositon like he did in the 04 republican primary. Than you might have a conversation going.
You've got to be kidding.
Giving money to the party to run that advertisement? Seriously?
Surely you know me better than that...
http://blog.lawsonforcongress.com/2008/04/25/on-negative-campaigning/
William (B.J.) Lawson
Congressional Candidate, North Carolina's 4th District
Greg! Help Us on BJ donation to Repub Exe Committee AD?
Giving money to the party to run that advertisement? Seriously?
Surely you know me better than that...*BJ
No I don't! Never met you! Stop putting Orwellian program words in my post and mind-set.
According to our super wiz researcher Greg [The Great Architect] here. I believe he found the donation on your campaign report. Whether you were stupid enough to give the Republican State Exc Committee a small donation for their use in any manner that they thought could be used for or the pro-racist Obama AD. Demand your donation back and claim fraud and than claim you were drug by Linda Daves at Party HQ's.
The Orange County Dems have
The Orange County Dems have asked Price to stop funding the war. That's not unqualified support. I'm not saying it's not going to be difficult, but it won't be impossible. It's a fact that Price has continued to give Bush his war funding, while even some Republicans vote against it.
"Congressman Price support is very deep and wide ranging from the present establishment. Your vote will be 29% to 33% [The present base of the Republican party] in the end"
That's what previous Price opponents have gotten for just showing up. I've told a few Democrats about BJ, and they're very interested. Most prefer Brad Miller to Price, and they don't like many of the things Price votes for (Patriot Act, Real ID, continuing the war funding, etc.)
Mr. Lawson, do you know how it works?
looking at the people that have contributed to the executive committee(?) that ran the ad, it seems that someone in that group had to have a say on how the money was spent. Was it only the officers? Do the members have a say?
No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.
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I'm not sure who you mean by
I'm not sure who you mean by the people who have contributed to the executive committee-- I'm sure that's thousands of people, and they're not going to be in on decision-making. It was most likely a decision of the chair and maybe a few other people. Technically, every county and district chair in the state is on the exec committee, and that runs to a lot of people.
There were definitely people on the executive committee who disagreed with Linda Daves' decision and asked her to stop the ad. It seems a small group of people decided to run it. Many Republicans were against it.
Mr. Lawson, are you also registered as libgirl?
Because my question started with,"Mr. Lawson".
Mr. Lawson, let's try this again....Gregflyn posted here on the thread titled "The NC GOP's anti-Obama color arousal ad" the names of some who have contributed to the 2008 Republican Executive Committee who put together and paid for the race-baiting ad. My question to you, Mr. Lawson is who makes the decision to pay out of that fund? Only the officers of the state party or do the contributors have a say? As it stands now, the ones on that list that come to BlueNC say they didn't have anything to do with the ad, they just give their hard earned money and other people make the decision on how to spend it.
Do members of your party have no control over the officers of the party and how they represent the Republicans of North Carolina?
No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.
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I don't know
who makes decisions to pay out of that fund, and make such advertisements.
Current members of the party have little control over the officers, other than the opportunity to vote them out of office every couple of years. Of course, we need to find good, principled leaders to take their place.
Overall, however, here's the biggest problem with the party's lack of accountability: checkoff funds.
The state parties (Democrat AND Republican) get a LOT of money from the ridiculous "checkoff funds" on North Carolina's state income tax returns. Doesn't it sound odd that the state would fund its political parties?
Interestingly, the checkoff "donation" was increased from $1 to $3 a year ago. Had that increase not occurred, the NCGOP would be essentially bankrupt. They've had a difficult time raising money from the grassroots without resorting to divisive stunts that only make them look ridiculous to thinking Americans.
So you see, the presence of this state-sanctioned gravy train from the income taxes of hardworking North Carolinians makes the state political parties completely unaccountable. The GOP and Democratic establishments can thumb their noses at pretty much the entire electorate and still have enough money to perpetuate the illusion of being a political party.
So I ask again, should our state be funding our political parties? Absolutely not. Where's the grassroots indignation over this "political welfare"? If a political party isn't responsive, and responsible, enough to raise money from its own members, it should go the way of the Hamiltonian Federalists (minus John Marshall).
BJ
William (B.J.) Lawson
Congressional Candidate, North Carolina's 4th District
Ya know, the last time I checked that box
when I looked down, it was my hand doing that checking. It's not an automatic, it's a choice. I even got to decide which party my $3 went to. So it seems that the Republicans have a BIG problem. #1 - they have no say in what their "out-of-control" neocon type state officers decide to do. #2 - because they are Republicans they only think, do and say as the party tells them. #3 - in public they get to tell their constituents they have no control over the party and their constituents apparently don't care. Which leads us all back to this post by dr. fox, If It Walks Like a Duck".
No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.
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the last time you checked that box,
it didn't cost you anything.
Those three dollars were already taken by the state. You just told the state to support a political party. Does that seem right?
William (B.J.) Lawson
Congressional Candidate, North Carolina's 4th District
BJ in the Desert with Moses check box?
Those three dollars were already taken by the state. You just told the state to support a political party. Does that seem right?*BJ
Of course not! Than if that is evil, than what are doing in a very evil party that couldn't care less about you and your opinions. You are like the Children of Israel, wandering in the desert thinking that you are going to the promise land and than suddenly your leader Moses turns the direction toward Egypt and says that he can convert Pharos after a little more education to his 28% evil chariot Army.