Brits and their snooty healthcare!

Crossposted from Left Toon Lane & My Left Wing


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I had the opportunity to have dinner with a living, breathing human who was a product of socialized medicine, otherwise known as the English Bloke.

Once a month, my car club gets together for a dinner and since it is a British car club, well, Brits attend. Usually we sing the glories of boots and bonnets, wings and sills but last night we chatted about socialized medicine.

According to him, anyone can get free medical care. He had a relative that fell off the top of his house and broke his hip. He had a replacement hip that night. Grand total? Nada. But if your hip was wearing out and needing replacing due to wear, it may take three months to get that done. Which was the two months shorter than what my Grandmother got here in the US with damn fine health insurance. Plus she had a huge bill afterward, plus a stroke during surgery (more cash) and some of the physical therapy wasn't covered. Our cost? Close to $10k with a 60 day longer wait.

The other issue that BushCo never brings up about socialized medicine is you can still have insurance. In Britain, most employers offer supplemental private insurance ON TOP of the regular socialized medical care. Think AFLAC.

Bottom line is this - Britain's National Health Service provides regular check-ups, emergency services and in-home care for free. Emergency things like broken bones, pediatric fevers and other issues like cancer that need immediate care gets immediate attention. Things that are not immediate medical threats like joint replacement, male pattern baldness and erectile dysfunction you will need to make an appointment, just like in the US.

Visit the NHS site or line up to watch SiCKO in the upcoming weeks. Either way, take a few minutes to leanr how much you are really being lied to about healthcare.

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Unique's picture

The Squirrels are at it again -

Gosh darn squirrels!

stormbear's picture

I swapped IP addresses last night

That is probably the issue. I rerouted the image to Left Toon Lane.

Thanks!

Stormy

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Unique's picture

Socialized Roads?

Socialized schools - (?)

They must use different engineers.

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According to him, anyone can get free medical care.

I can't believe you said "free medical care." I'm sure that was an accident. As you know "free medical care" is just as "free" as the "free" road I am looking at out my window.

stormbear's picture

I am guessing you "got" the strip then.

But the question is, are you for public roadways or against them?

;-)

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I would normally say that

I would normally say that building roads is less complex than putting together a national healthcare system, but at least to NCDOT engineers, cutting expansion joints all the way through to the underlying surface on the new section of I-40 was apparently a concept a bit above their level of expertise.

I was thinking about taking a dig at NC State by inferring that the DOT engineers matriculated there, but that wouldn't be very nice. Go Heels!

Does everyone have a "right" to "free" roads going everywhere they want like they are supposed to have a "right" to free healthcare? Roads, while not a "right" are something the government iss involved in for the betterment of society. The job of the universal healthcare proponents is to convince the public that the government will do a lot better job handling their healthcare than they do building and taking care of the roads.

Uh Oh

The job of the universal healthcare proponents is to convince the public that the government will do a lot better job handling their healthcare than they do building and taking care of the roads.

We're screwed. Have you checked the conditions of our roads lately? :)

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

Robert P.'s picture

This is a fact.

A lousy single-payer system, will be just as bad as our current system. What would make it lousy? Low reimbursement for doctors.
The reason our roads are getting so bad is that the money to repair them has been cut at the same time that repair costs have gone up 35%. So, they are waiting until roads get REALLY bad to fix them. The problem with that is that each mile of repair to a totally f(*&^d up road costs a LOT more than resurfacing of a slightly beat-up road. The result? Even LESS roads are replaced.

It's a vicious circle that starts with cutting funding in lieu of keeping taxes in place.

With health care, it will be the same way. Our wait time will be just as short as now, our care will be just as good, unless we try to slash costs by lowering reimbursement.

A good universal health care plan is the ONLY universal health care plan we should be supporting.

One man with courage makes a majority.
- Andrew Jackson

Blue South's picture

done and done

I get everywhere that I would ever need to go, quickly and safely.

If roads were built by the people who are currently in charge of our health care system our society would have collapsed years ago.

Draft Brad Miller-- NC Sen ActBlue

Unique's picture

True

The VA does a good job when they have the funds.

Everyone should have that. With dental and optical.

stormbear's picture

Thatcher vs Blair

According to the English Bloke, Thatcher damn near destroyed the NHS with extreme cutbacks and he does credit Blair for rebuilding NHS despite all his other lapses in judgment.

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Robert P.'s picture

p.s. It's not the baby boomers and Stormbear tie-in.

From Ezra Klein:

In my vast storehouse of boring, wonky hobby horses, an old favorite is that it's not Medicare which is in financial crisis, but health spending more generally. The question is one of cost inflation, not aging, or underfunding. So I'm glad to see David Leonhardt get his hands on this CBO graph:

....Cost containment really is key -- and it needs to fixed systemwide.

Part of that is encouraging less treatment. Lumbar surgeries, which are increasingly common, aren't particularly effective...But there's another driver too. "Doctors are almost always better off if the surgery is done," writes Leonhardt. "The typical hospital bill for lumbar fusion is roughly $50,000."

Again, remember that HMOs were going to save us because doctors were running unnecessary tests and such.

One man with courage makes a majority.
- Andrew Jackson

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