Butch whacked

Beyond pure greed and something akin to blood-lust, it's never been clear to me how college sports became the monstrous machine they are today. Even 35 years ago at the US Naval Academy, when we had to march onto football fields for the annual orgy of the Army-Navy game, I felt a deep sense of misplaced priorities, heavily laden by the stench of too much testosterone.

That ugly tradition continues today at UNC, where in a stunning display of poor judgment, Dick Baddour has just granted a losing head football coach a raise of nearly $300,000 per year. The N&O properly takes issue with the decision.

The hike will bring the coach's compensation, including a shoe deal and bonus potentials, to over $2 million annually. That's still a little less than men's basketball coach Roy Williams.

Athletics officials and those boosters who seem to define the school by its football and basketball prowess long ago ceased to care about how outsized coaches' salaries are compared to those of professors -- or even to chancellors and university presidents. (Davis and Williams earn more in one year than the once-in-a-lifetime reward for winners of the Nobel Prize.)

They seem oblivious as well even to thinking about whether it is a healthy thing for a public university with a stellar academic reputation to send a maddening message about its priorities, one that seems to set the athletics program apart from all else. That message, by the way, is the same whether the money to fund athletics comes from the taxpayer or from private donations.

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Where is Chancellor James Moeser in all this? Sadly, under his tenure, the athletics program has grown more burly and independent. For that matter, UNC system President Erskine Bowles ought to be sounding some alarms here.

James Moeser is a nice enough guy, but he seems way out of his league when it comes to exercising the kind of leadership necessary to rein in runaway sports. Plus he's a lame duck. And Bowles? The jury's still out. For all his talk about the right priorities in education, he seems awfully content to let the Big Boys Club (the board of governors) call the shots about what's important in the people's university.

Thanks to the N&O for this strong, clear editorial.

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As I said to my father-in-law last night.

If he wins a national championship at UNC, like he did at Miami, or if he starts taking UNC to BCS bowls every year like he did in Miami, then it will be a net bonus for UNC. I love college sports and I don't care what they pay the coach, as long as they win and bring in fans, alumni, and properties $s. Basketball has played a huge part in the reputation of UNC, that is the reason why UNC sky-blue gear sells more than any other property in the world. That money is a big reason why UNC is such a good school. Think about it, so many other things the state touches stink, why is UNC-CH so good?

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Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
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Money is a big reason why UNC is such a good school?

Why is funding in the UNC system so unevenly distributed?

How else should it be distributed?

I think that UNCW, UNCC, UNCA should get more money, but does that mean you should cut funding for UNC-CH?

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Um, yes.

When there's a finite amount of resources, yes.

Beyond that, UNC-Chapel Hill receives a disproportionate amount of state and federal funding (yay lobbyists!), including financial aid, when their students are not the most needy.

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Thats a pretty big if

First of all UNC is not Miami, where the last five coaches have won national championships, but that is not even the point. This was done because ever since the rumor statred about Davis leaving for Arkansas, something Davis himself seems to have a difficult time denying he is interested in, several recruits who UNC thought they had have chosen to sign elsewhere, because they do not believe he will be there in four years. Davis and Badour did this stunt to give a sign to potential recriuts that Davis does not inted to leave, however as several ESPN college football experts have already expressed the only way Davis can put rumors to bed will have to come from him, and so far he is reluctant to do that.

Butch Davis also has a reputation

When he left Miami for the Cleveland Browns, he swore up and down that he was staying at Miami. Many recruits felt jilted by that. And when he left Cleveland, he left in the middle of the season after talking about how he was there for the long haul. Butch Davis has a long history of saying one thing and doing another.

When Butch Davis came to Miami

he came into a program that was in NCAA violation, which was barred from postseason play and lost 31 scholarship spots. Yet, he continued to win. So, it isn't Miami here in UNC, but then again Duke never was either.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

No national championship, BTW.

Hat-tip to Obidiah for clarifying that Butch has never won the national championship. Earlier when I was looking at his record there, I realized I was wrong about this, but forgot to mention it.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

He did win a National Championship

In 1987 as a D-Line coach for Jimmy Johnson.

And many credit Butch with the 2001 Miami National Championship

Right, but I thought he had won as head coach at Miami, before..

leaving for Cleveland.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

2001

Many count as his, since it was his players and Larry Coker proved he couldn't coach to save his life. Then again, the book is still open about Butch Davis.

I'd like to see some data on this

I'm not saying you're full of crap, I'm just skeptical. And even if the numbers are there, it still doesn't fit my view of the proper role of higher education in North Carolina.

UNC has dropped over the past two years.

I didn't know that UT had pushed them out, and now other schools have as well.

This marks the first year the University of Texas at Austin has been ranked #1 in the colleges and universities category – a spot previously held by the University of North Carolina. UNC held the #1 ranking for five consecutive years, prior to UT notching its place as the top selling Consortium institution.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Money

From an 05 article

During the 2004-05 school year 110 out of 120 Division I athletics programs broke even or made a profit, according to the EADA data.

But there are discrepancies between the EADA data and the NCAA data for individual schools, as well as in the aggregate.

For example, the athletics department at N.C. State University made about $250,000 in 2005, according to the EADA reports. But N.C. State athletics ran a deficit of more than $1 million in 2005, according to NCAA reports.

UNC-Chapel Hill athletics made a profit of nearly $400,000 in 2005, according to the EADA, but made only $220,000, according to NCAA documents.

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

Part of the discrepancy in the UNC-Butch Davis deficit

Is composed of the $1,000,000 deficit they run at the Nose Dome that the State of North Carolina picks up. It is extremely convenient that UNC-Butch Davis always seems to never be above or below the maximum cut off point for the State to take over the excess.

No other college arena in the State of North Carolina has that stipulation, yet the Nose Dome does.

How do the other arenas avoid the money pit fall? They host other events at their arenas, concerts, business groups, etc. But for some reason the UNC-Butch Davis does not do that.

The Market/Blame Raleigh

How do the other arenas avoid the money pit fall? They host other events at their arenas, concerts, business groups, etc. But for some reason the UNC-Butch Davis does not do that.

The Smith Center used to be THE place for concerts and other events. Then along came the outdoor ampitheatre craze and we got Walnut Creek(owned by Raleigh). Walnut Creek all but dried up the Dome's concert business. More recently, the RBC center, which was mostly built with tax money, came along to take up any indoor concert or event scraps.

That is not entirely true

The Nose Dome never really went after concerts as they claimed they would. They are just using the excuse of Walnut Creek and the RBC Center to not hold concerts there now.

A few years ago, Keenan Stadium played host to the Boss right in the middle of Football season and not during a by week.

All I know

is what I know. I was a student at UNC and lived in Hinton James dorm. It's the big high-rise dorm next to the Dome. It seemed as if there was a concert there almost every week. The next year, Walnut Creek opened up and pretty much all the concerts went away. Yes, there were a few; I think I saw Eric Clapton and James Taylor there. Certainly there was the Dead show that brought the entire town of Chapel Hill to a gridlocked halt. Things were never the same after Walnut Creek opened up.

walnut creek serves a different purpose

It is an outdoor amphitheater and completely limited in time of the year they can hold events. The Nose Dome is not. And don't give me the line that you can't hold events during Basketball season because that is pure nonsense. UNC-Butch Davis looked for any excuse to not hold events there.

It's not just the "outdoor

It's not just the "outdoor amphitheater" craze. The acoustics at the Dome are horrible, and you can't sell booze there. (Unlike the RBC Center.) The Dome has tried to attract several acts over the last few years (REM was supposed to play for Homecoming a few years ago, but canceled over the summer to move to Alltel Pavilion), but they wind up only being able to draw children's acts (Big Bird & Elmo dancing around).

Concerts are a huge financial risk, and the Dean Dome is just not the logical place to book a major concert. Especially when there are several more appropriate venues 20 minutes away.

The good ole accoustics argument

I've heard that too many times before.

And of course the alcohol argument: That didn't seem to be too big of a problem when the Boss played at Kenan.

The special stipulation the Nose Dome gets to cover its $1,000,000 short fall it practically budgets every year should irritate everyone. It's a sham and the taxpayers deserve better.

Duke fan?

or just jealous of UNC basketball.....or in middle school? It's one of the three.

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Forgot about tuition costs

The tuition costs for the athletes are added into the NCAA figuring, but not the EADA. To the NCAA because not every booster organization is the same, they count the tuition as a loss of money, but for NC State and UNC-Butch Davis, their respective Booster organizations, Wolfpack Club and Rams Club cover the costs of tuition for the Student Athletes.

And, if they were a winning program...

those dollars would increase. College sports have a lot of problems, no doubt, and I am a firm believer in the education role of our University system, but until the problems are fixed (which is less likely that Bush seeing An Inconvenient Truth), you have to win to make money.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

We shouldn't forget

That a lot of student athletes wouldn't have the opportunity to go to college if it weren't for college sports.

If there is a problem that needs fixed...

It is the ability of athletes to play pro sports without going to college, or with only one year of college. That PROBABLY results in many student athletes forsaking studies altogether, assuming they will be one of those who makes a killing in the draft. Then, when they fail, or are injured, they have nothing to fall back upon. Once again, we have the rules in place, like GPA requirements, but they are a joke that can be easily avoided and manipulated.

Student athletes should be that, students and athletes. It isn't easy, but it should be the rule, not the exception.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Which is why you should cheer for Davidson

Student-athlete GPA is higher than the student body GPA. 25% of the student body plays a Division I sport. Coach McKillop has graduated 100% of the Seniors he has coached, and 95% of all players (transfers count against him).

There is something special happening on I-77 and the rest of the country should pay attention to it.

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"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire

Same can be said...

of the Patriot League, Vanderbilt, Duke, Ivy League, Stanford, Northwestern, Notre Dame.

Not of Duke

You compare Davidson's athlete graduation rates, athlete GPA, and the number of great basketball players we didn't admit (due to lack of academic credentials) to the figures at Duke and there's no contest.

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I was speaking across the board

At Duke, unless it is basketball, there is no waving of the academic standards. That is the main reason why Duke football sucks so much.

Coach K fires Duke's Roof..Oops! Or was it Nifong or Broadway?

At Duke, unless it is basketball, there is no waving of the academic standards. That is the main reason why Duke football sucks so much.* jjsmith

It appears that Coach K think otherwise? Talking about the power of postive thinking?

One day after the North Carolina loss, men's basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski — long considered the public face of this elite university — urged the administration to act swiftly and decisively, either to retain Roof or fire him.

"You support Ted, let's give him an opportunity to grow and don't let this linger," Krzyzewski said after his team's victory over Eastern Kentucky on Sunday. "Something's going to happen otherwise, then do that. But we need to (act quickly). And then we need to develop an attitude that we can win here, which we can. Duke football can win."

And in this corner Is Coach Butch with his money bags pack to go

Student athletes should be that, students and athletes. It isn't easy, but it should be the rule, not the exception.* RP

You got that right! Professional sports now rule and control college sports as the final recuritement or marketing sources for their bottom line. As a former college and professional jock from many centuries ago. It was consider a honor to be able to maintain a decent GPR and get that degree for the future since professional sports didn't pay the big bucks that has corrupted the present college sports corporate system. When coaches or schools tell you that the student-jock comes first in attaining that degree. They are lying out their of their front teeth with a truck load of dirty socks and jocks.

America has adopted the ancient Roman empire Gladiator system as their model. Like all corporate enterprises, The market finally destroys itself when it turns to blood sport. The massive Arenas of today will be like the ancient Arenas of the past. They will be ruins for future tourists to fiqure out how in the hell did those people screw up a civilization with their barbarian greed.