CA Supreme Court upholds Prop 8

The California Supreme Court has upheld Prop 8, but did not dissolve the 18,000 marriages that took place between same sex couples last year in the state. The decision was expected, but is still disheartening.

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Betsy, you may be disheartened

But, the reson why this was expected, was because this was more of a technical case rather than a civil rights one. Those who hoped this case would overturn Prop 8., had to understand that the plantiffs did not bring civil rights into this case because if they did it would have become a Federal issue, but rather they were questioning they method of a public vote on a constitutional amendment, which California allows, and did those who fought to put prop 8, on the ballot follow the process legaly, which the court says they did. Betsy, I respect your views even though you and I differ on this issue, I hope that this decision will put an end to the issue just as you hope it does not, I have a feeling though we will hear more from it.

Mired in technicalities

You are correct that this case is about technicalities.

In fact, one of the major questions of the case was which type of referendum was Prop 8 subject to?

Because Prop 8 put the civil rights of a minority (as defined by the same court) to a vote of the majority, some argued that such a serious constitutional revision was required to meet a higher standard under California law - submission to scrutiny by the legislative branch AND the voters in referendum.

As we all know, Prop 8 did not go through the legislative process - only the ballot initiative process. And as such, the CA Supreme Court has now declared open season on anyone's civil rights via CA's very loose ballot referendum process.

So, yes. Procedure matters. That's what the judicial branch is for. And like all entities, they sometimes fail in their duty. It is now up to future California citizens to clean up whatever mess this ruling makes of California law.

 

It is going on the ballot again in 2010

this time to try to amend things to make marriage equality legal. I think the CA Supreme Court's decision that stripping civil rights qualifies as something smaller like an amendment (provided that they keep the separate gay civil unions equal) rather than a big deal like a revision, that means CA is going to see this on the ballot every 2 years for the next decade.

I can't imagine being one of those 36,000 people who were allowed to keep their marriages who know that if they ever get divorced they wouldn't be allowed to re-marry.

A revamped 60 sec version of this, an "online video viewed by more than 1.2 million people, making it the most-watched video ever in the history of California politics", will be aired on TV in CA. Hopefully it'll help change some minds before the ballot initiative next year. And maybe since it is an off year election it will change the dynamics enough that marriage equality will happen again (I mean marriage equality only lost by a very slim amount last time).

But CA has passed Marriage Equality through the legislature twice (their republican gov just kept vetoing it), & through the judicial branch once. With a record like that like of passing it more often than most states, I think they'll get it to stick eventually.

NC getting in on this.

I couldn't find any events in NC, so I'm making one.

If anyone is nearby and has 8 minutes to spare, I'm going down to the Court House (symbolic right?) in down town Chapel Hill across from the university. I figure the most open minded part of this state has to have some kind of event.

I've still got my sign from the November protests, and I've got some equality NC brochures that we could pass out. I'm going even if I have to stand alone. Its a little muggy, but I think the rain has cleared up. If there are any other North Carolinians who want to stand with our family & friends & allies in California, then feel free to meet me down their at 8.

Its a work night for me, gotta be up at 5:00 am, so I can't stay down there long, but I think we can at least muster this symbolic gesture for our allies in California.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=97720298896

Missed it

Wish I could have been there (where is Chapel Hill)

But on the other hand, my county Democratic meeting was tonight. And I wore my Marriage Equality T-shirt (one of them) and even cornered a group of fellow democrats on the issue of marriage equality, and some of the BS coming from the bigots who wish to deny my husband (not just yet, but getting in practice) and I civil rights.

Boku no otto wa totemo aishite

Post Script

I forgot to add.

Was late leaving and left the TV on when I rushed out the door. When I got back there was a new reality show on "Hitched or Ditched" which forces couples to chose whether to get married or break up. Ah Sanctity.

Boku no otto wa totemo aishite

Pictures

Standing by the road in front of the Chapel Hill Courthouse in protest of the court ruling upholding Prop 8's ban on marriage equality.

Holding up the sign & passing out brochures (I'm on the far right)

Thanks for adding the pics

We simply can't stop. I know it isn't much of a consolation now, but the next generation of voters is so much more accepting. Even the teen Republicans I've met through my daughter's teen dem activities don't have a problem with two people of the same gender getting married. It's refreshing and it gives me hope for the future, but then I'm not discriminated against, so it is much easier for me to say that.



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Definition of Marriage

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5223445/

Here is a promo commercial for the Definition of Marriage story that WRAL is doing tomorrow at 6 that I was interviewed for. You can see a few of my wedding & reception pictures mixed in that ad as well as our wedding cake. I hope the story turns out well. I've done live & pre-recorded radio both statewide & locally many times before, but you always have more content control there... especially when it is live. This is only my 2nd time appearing on local television news, and you never know how it is going to turn out.
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Woot, I figured out how to embed it! :P

Greensboro Prop 8 Ruling Protest

An old high school buddy of mine heard about this event & decided to get in on it by organizing one in Greensboro next weekend.

Full event details here:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=83529848151

Date:
Saturday, June 6, 2009
Time:
1:00pm - 5:00pm
Location:
Greensboro's Governmental Plaza (In front of the cop/kid statue)
Street:
Washington Street
City/Town:
Greensboro, NC

Greensboro Protest NEXT weekend

In my previous post I both said this weekend (which was wrong) but gave the correct date. So to clarify it is NEXT weekend in Greensboro at 1pm.

http://www.new.facebook.com/event.php?eid=83529848151
Date:
Saturday, June 6, 2009
Time:
1:00pm - 5:00pm
Location:
Greensboro's Governmental Plaza (In front of the cop/kid statue)
Street:
Washington Street
City/Town:
Greensboro, NC

Commentary & Hot Topic

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5229045/

If anyone can help out by clicking at the bottom to vote for it as a hot topic, that would be awesome (you don't need to have an account set up there to do that, I believe anyone can)

And if you had a minute to sign up for an account & leave a comment at the bottom on the GOLO (Go Local) link, so that the WRAL viewers can see that some people do support marriage equality, it would really help out. Thanks! =)

Also for anyone with a DailyKos account wants to recommend, comment, or add tips, you can do so here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/28/736482/-The-Definition-of-MarriageNC-style