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From her website

KAY HAGAN ANNOUNCES BID FOR UNITED STATES SENATE

"I want this campaign to be about giving North Carolina a voice."

Citing the need to change the country and demand accountability in Washington, North Carolina State Senator Kay Hagan today announced her candidacy for the United States Senate. Hagan, who is currently serving her fifth term in the North Carolina Senate, officially launched her bid against Elizabeth Dole through a video on her new campaign website.

"To make a difference in North Carolina, we need change in Washington," Hagan said. "We need a Senator to make our voice heard. We need a Senator who will stand up, lead and make a difference. That's what I've done, and it's what I'm going to keep doing in Washington."

Hagan said the issues that are most important to voters are what will set her apart.

"We need accountability to end the war in Iraq so we can re-invest those resources here at home. How can Washington reject health care for 123,000 North Carolina children, while continuing to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on this mismanaged war?" Hagan said. "Making those kinds of decisions is hard, but I know it can be done - because those are the kinds of fights I've led in the State Senate."

Throughout her career as a state legislator, Kay has proven to her colleagues and constituents that she is a tireless advocate for the people of North Carolina. Distinguished as one of the "Top Ten Effective Senators" in the state, Kay has been commended for being a diligent and successful voice for her constituency.

"Kay Hagan is one of the strongest and most effective leaders in North Carolina," former Governor Jim Hunt said. "She has been a champion of improving education and creating jobs for our entire state. She has exactly the kind of good ideas, energy and drive North Carolina needs in Washington."

"I'm proud of doing things the right way here - it's something Washington could use a lot more of," Hagan said. "I want this campaign to be about giving North Carolina a voice."

Hagan, a lifelong North Carolinian, has raised three children in Greensboro, a community she has represented for nine years in the state Senate. She will launch her campaign with a tour of the state in the coming weeks.

I've invited Senator Hagan to BlueNC to talk about her candidacy, and I hope she'll take us up on that invitation. I certainly have a few questions I'd like to get answered. In the meantime, I wish her and other North Carolina Democrats the best of luck in holding their party together.


Comments

Good for her

I'm glad she's jumped back in. I'm not sure if I support her or Neal yet, but I'm glad that she's in the race.

As a former resident of her district, I got to know Sen Hagan fairly well and consider her to be a smart, capable, and passionate Democrat who's a consummates professional and a hell of a campaigner.

I think she's definitely the strongest candidate to take down Dole.

I am gay

so perhaps I am biased. DUH. In my opinion the only reason she changed her mind and jumped back in is because Jim Neal is openly gay and not ashamed of it or willing to hide in the closet to make the party bosses happy. And she thinks she has a shot now by being the straight man no pun intended. .She can deny it all she wants but that's the truth. Kay Hagan is never getting my vote. Not that she wants gay votes anyway.

Sure

Don't let a total lack of evidence keep you from believing that. I'm sure that Kay Hagan hates gay people just because you say so.

And I'm out.

I've been demoralized by politics many times in my life, but this turn of events has knocked me back on my heels. I really do wish everyone involved the best of luck. It'll be an interesting primary, for sure.

If I can ever get a new party (The Blue Party) up and running, I'll change my affiliation to that. But in the meantime, my check-out is in the mail.

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More and more folks are going independent....

I'm running for office this year and also ran in 2005. Because of that, I have the voter roles from 2005, 2006 and 2007. In Orange County (OC) more and more folks are going independent.

BTW, I prefer "independent" over "unaffiliated". Unaffiliated is a frame device constructed to make folks sound like they couldn't make up their minds - and in the OC that is decidedly not the case (let's say Anglico will have hundreds of local folks signing up for the Blue Party minutes after it goes live).

Kay might be a great candidate but the timeline behind the national folks throwing their support behind her is just the kind of thing that made me flee the Party. "Oh shit, we'll never win with an openly gay candidate in NC, who can we get to run there?" The national folks had a chance to back Kay before - where was all the concern for NC prior to Neal throwing in his hat?

Jim's campaign could be an excellent chance to reaffirm the Party's key touchstones (at least they used to be key) and energize the progressive base in NC. Guess that's not part of the calculus the national boys use.

Speaking of the national party folks - ARE THEY REALLY DEBATING HOW MUCH MORE MONEY TO SEND TO IRAQ?

CitizenWill
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CitizenWill
there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because Conscience tells him it is right. MLK,Jr. to SCLC Leadership Class

That's one of the things that gets me, too.

Party leadership doesn't reflect my values, yet they keep sending me requests for money. And polls and stuff, which I dutifully fill out with my pinko commie opinions and return without a check.

It's hard being a pinko commie in the modern Democratic party.

Yup.

And it's hard trying to turn the donkey ever so slightly to the left.

I'd be happy with just one slight turn. That's why I got involved, and involved up to my ears, I am. Almost inextricably, at this point.

There was one moment, on yesterday's news, where Nancy Pelosi spanked the President. She said, basically, that "the President's remarks" (about Congress and the wasting of time) were a waste of time." She reminded people that this is not a do nothing congress - that the "petulant president" (hat tip to Keith Olbermann) was the one who signed into law the first raise in minimum wage in 10 years, the one who signed the law that made it easier for thousands of children to go to college, and now he was just obfuscating, trying not to sign S-CHIP and throwing a little tantrum because he wasn't getting what he wanted from the Congress.

That moment made it worth it to be a Democrat yesterday.


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Keep the faith A! Help is on the Way!

If I can ever get a new party (The Blue Party) up and running, I'll change my affiliation to that. But in the meantime, my check-out is in the mail.* A

You are like many, many millions out there....We are getting screw by both sides of the neo-con Establishment in the parties. A new party is on it's way and it is massive in coming as a repected poltical party for the future with the Progressives and real Libertarians with the same cause....keep the faith !

I can assure you that your change has and will rattle the establishment in this State, since you are a natural born leader and a great American.....Expect the standard smear attack calling you everything under the Neo-con Sun.....

Well, it certainly would be nice

if she came here and live-blogged so we could decide too.

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

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Sorry to see/hear that A

but you have just joined the rank of many in this state and across the country.

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

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It's a hard decision

and I'm not going anywhere for sure.

Lately I've found myself asking far too often what the hell I'm doing pouring so much time and energy into a Party that barely reflects my own views of what's important - especially here in North Carolina.

The nice thing is, I can still vote in the Democratic primary, which is the only act for which party affiliation really matters in the final analysis.

Wow

You have put so much time and energy into the party that I'm just at a loss for words, A. I know you have to do what you feel is right, however I'm still saddened that you've been brought to the point to where you feel you need to do this.

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North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

Me too.

The nice thing is, a person can change affiliation anytime they want. And I'll certainly be back if I see even the slightest evidence of progress.

It's a hard thing. I canceled my subscription to the N&O because of their crappy editorial pages - and I know of at least two dozen others who have followed me out that door. Has that changed their approach? Not yet . . . but if those two dozen became two thousand, you never know what might happen.

The Democratic Party in North Carolina has been taking progressives for granted, in my opinion. And for whatever reason, we haven't been able to push back hard enough to get their attention. This Hagan business is just the last straw . . . all by itself it wouldn't have dented me one bit. But add it to the recent tax cut for rich North Carolinians, the lottery, the miserable handling of Jim Black, the corporate incentives scams . . . and it gets kind of hard to stand in there.

I'm certainly a Democrat at heart - probably always will be. But sometimes you just have to say "enough."

No difference, yada yada

Come on, Anglico, you know as well as I do that there IS a huge difference between the parties. Doubt me? Vote republican and see what fresh hell lurches down I-40.

"85% of Republicans are Democrats who don't know what's going on." -Robert Kennedy, Jr.

"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire

No one has said "no difference" besides you.

You can read anything I've ever written and you will never find even the slightest hint of me saying there's no difference between the major parties. I know there are huge differences. And as I've promised on many occasions, I can't imagine any scenario under which I'd vote for a Republican. Nor would I vote for a third party candidate that might put a Democrat at risk. I've been clear about that all along.

This isn't about the one day every two years when we vote. It's about the other 728 days where progressives in North Carolina get blown off and taken for granted by elected officials. It's about the national and state Democratic Party establishment backing a state senator rated by NCFREE as one of the few "business friendly" Democrats in the Legislature - and who helped orchestrate a deal to cut taxes on the wealthy while leaving a regressive sales tax increase in place. It's also about all the other things I wrote about above.

Will I vote for Hagan if she's the nominee? You bet. She's a thousand times better than Liddy Dole. But that doesn't mean I want to be a "member" of a party that doesn't give a shit about what I think.

Contrary to what many might think...

I'm glad to welcome Sen. Hagan into the race and hopefully into a live-blog here at BlueNC. While I might have, at some point in my writings, have seen situations where a primary feels like a bad idea, this is not one of them. I hope that the Senate candidates can do better than the Gubernatorial candidates at keeping it civil (although there hasn't been much mud lately, maybe they have turned over a new leaf).

I look forward to learning more about the Senator AND about Mr. Neal.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

The only people who are destroying the party

are the Governor campaigns and the people yelling about this on BlueNC. This will be a tame, gloves-on positive primary. We absolutely need a primary in this race, because nobody who is currently running is going to have the Name-ID without it, and Neal needs to win a primary to prove viability and increase his chances. Kay Hagan isn't running because Neal is gay. Thank God I've been out running canvasses over the past two weeks or I might have said something with a little less tact.

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

Okay. I admit it, Sam.

I am the one destroying the party. That's been my secret mission for the past 40 years.

No, me, I'm destroying the party.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

It takes a village

A Southern Village, that is.

:)

I am Spartacus!

:)

It's ok

I took care of that for you earlier.

I'm EFFING SICK OF LOSING COMMENTS

"85% of Republicans are Democrats who don't know what's going on." -Robert Kennedy, Jr.

"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire

As I said on another thread

We've tried to fix it and can't.

Copy your comments before you preview or post. I do that whenever I have to work with IE.

J

PS I'm really sorry that's happening. It drives me nuts too.

then stop complaining about it,

And either save the posts in notepad or word before you post, or switch to Firefox.


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

sorry

Just driving me crazy, and it is completely unpredictable, and i can't download Firefox here.

"85% of Republicans are Democrats who don't know what's going on." -Robert Kennedy, Jr.

"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire

Mobile Firefox

Dr. Frank, here's the beans you need:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox_-_Portable_Edition

If your computer has a USB port, you can run portable Firefox. I know a few folks that use the local library for Internet access and have fixed them up with flash drives so they can surf with their settings without having to install anything on the libraries HD.

CitizenWill
there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because Conscience tells him it is right. MLK,Jr. to SCLC Leadership Class

CitizenWill
there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because Conscience tells him it is right. MLK,Jr. to SCLC Leadership Class

Hunt backs Hagan

From the Dome

As Mark Binker notes on his Capitol Beat blog, the endorsement of the popular four-term governor makes her the establishment favorite.

"Kay Hagan is one of the strongest and most effective leaders in North Carolina," Hunt is quoted saying in a press release from Hagan's campaign.

Hagan announced earlier today that she would seek the Democratic nomination to face U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole. She faces Chapel Hill investment banker Jim Neal in the primary. "This pretty much tags Hagan as the party establishment candidate, and puts Jim Neal in a difficult spot right from the get-go," Binker writes.

I'll say.

Neal being gay means bupkis to me

I'm more concerned about the fact that he hasn't lived in NC that long. Yes, I know he grew up here, but he spent his adult likfe in NY.

Kind of hard for him to rag on Dole for "remembering" that she was in NC just in time to run for Senate, isn't it?

I like what I have heard from him, but I think that will hurt, and will likely hurt worse than the inevitable attacks on his sexuality.

"85% of Republicans are Democrats who don't know what's going on." -Robert Kennedy, Jr.

"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire

Most progressive

In the end, I will be supporting the most progressive candidate. Whoever wins the election, I'll be happy to support them against Dole. As of right now, it seems to me that Jim Neal is the most progressive Dem in the race. That said, I'd like to see both candidates put through the paces to see what they believe in and what they don't. The travesty that is the Senate budget the last couple years (don't forget, the Senate version wanted to slash medicaid for blind, disabled, elderly citizens time before last) is enough for me to distrust anyone involved in that debacle.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Kay's statment on why she ran.

Hagan said investment banker Jim Neal's (D) entry into the race wasn't a factor in her decision. Hagan: "My decision has nothing to do with any candidate I may face in the primary. It was my decision. Period."

(Robertson, AP, 10/20).

Fair enough.

Question. How often do you hear a person bring up their primary opponent as NOT a reason they got into the race? For instance, Richard Moore would never say "My decision has nothing to do with any candidate I may face in the primary. It was my decision. Period."

Perhaps I'm not the only one who has heard the rumors and she is nipping it in the bud? That would suggest they were very widespread rumors I would think, since I hardly doubt she or her staff is worried about NCBlue.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

to be fair

I would assume that it was brought up by the reporter and not her.

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

I was screwing with our friend.

Sorry, I should have just let it drop.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

i think she was answering a question

that's why she brought up the primary opponent.

Seriously?

It's becuase people like you falsly accused her and her campaign of being a tool of homophobes and bigots without a shred of evidence.
I didn't want to start this back up, but...

Hagan is suddenly back in the race following many harried phone calls from current Democratic candidates worried that Jim's being the nominee will hurt their changes at being elected, after all, he's gay{shhhhh}.

That was fun, I was just seeing how over the top I could make

you go. Your reactions are very...interesting.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Note to myself:

Me: That wasn't nice, don't do it again.

Myself: Alright, if you say so.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

NCBlue

Very funny, Rob Christmas.

I guess I missed your joke

Your previous post said that Kay Hagan was running as a tool of homophobic Democratic party insiders. It was very clear in that regard.

Sen. Hagan just said that her decision to run was her's and her's alone. Aside from that, she said she had been thinking about getting into the race long before Jim Neal's "outing" and that Neal was not a factor in her decision making.

You have sullied a good public servant's name by claiming she is the tool of bigoted Democratic operatives. You have provided one shred of evidence to back up your claim.

That's a serious charge to level without any real proof. Now you're joking about it.

I resent the implication you made and apparently so does Kay. I bet Libby Dole is loving it though.

The joke is one that comes

from something that happened when you weren't here. Rob Christiansen, at the N&O, referred to this site and NCBlue. So Robert referred to him as Rob Christmas. Once you've been here a while, you'll get the little insider stuff.

Now that Kay Hagan is in the race, I would love for her to come to a live blog session here. After all - her primary opponent did, and won many supporters in so doing. She should have the opportunity for equal time. Are you close enough to her to try to get that set up? Private message me if you can help. Thanks.


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Stop making stuff up isabelabadone

Robert was being snarky and didn't use the word homophobe or bigot. He also never levied false accusations. I'm sick of you making crap up. Get over yourself. You're the one tossing out false accusations.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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If I have this right,

discriminating against someone based on their sexuality is homophobic bigotry.
Robert said that Hagan is being pushed in to the race by people who don't want Neal to run for senate because he is gay; thus discriminating against him based on his sexuality.
Did you not understand the bloc quotes represented quoting Robert's exact text where he said those very words? I didn't make anything up. Did I?

Why mention Neal at all?

Certainly, if she's any sort of politician, her decision had nothing to do with him.


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

I was going to paste her announcement video...

but it isn't shareable. She should change that.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Information Please!

Okay, so now we know that we're going to have to pick here.

Could someone PLEASE share some information about Kay Hagan involving why I should or should not vote for her that does NOT involve any of the following: Jim Neal, DSCC, candidate homosexuality, or Grier Martin. (not that these issues aren't important at some level, but I've heard plenty about them, thank you.)

Here's what I know about her:

- Considered a leader in the state Senate.
- Was one of the prime authors of the very bad Senate budget bill.
- The stuff in her candidacy announcement.

More, please?

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