It's official. Patty May Have Met His Match

When a wingnut like Doug Clark at the Greensboro paper says Republican Patrick McHenry has a serious challenger, you should sit up and listen. And that's just what Clark says today about Daniel Johnson. Thanks to Ed Cone for dragging this one up.

Not much has been reported about Johnson's political positions, although the HDR quotes an area Democratic leader as saying he holds moderate-to-conservative views typical of the 10th District. The 10th has been solidly Republican for decades. Jim Broyhill, then Cass Ballenger, held the seat before McHenry.

But Democrats are getting smarter in their strategies in Republican territory. They're not going to win with liberal candidates. Their lone North Carolina gain last year came in the 11th District where Heath Shuler defeated Charles Taylor. Shuler holds very conservative views on many issues and probably makes a lot of Democrats in progressive Asheville uncomfortable, but winning in politics requires trade-offs.

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I can't predict how this congressional race will shape up, but it looks like Democrats have a candidate in Daniel Johnson with proven courage and character. If he doesn't align himself with his party's Nancy Pelosi wing, the 10th District's moderate voters, like my mom, will give him a very close look.

The Nancy Pelosi wing? Which corner of right-wing world is Doug Clark living in? Daniel Johnson will do just fine being a mainstream Democrat. It's progressives like me he'll need to steer clear of.

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Here's the candidate on the stump

Daniel Johnson poses with Fletcher McCrady on his 4th birthday. Photo by September McCrady
 
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What I want to know is:

if Fetzer and Stephens successfully pimp Liddy as the perfect Veep candidate for someone like, say; a Catholic Guiliani or a Mormon Romney (northeasterners who certainly won't go over well in the south ... ) If Liddy gets tapped for the national Republican ticket AFTER the Senate filing deadlines, who gets to pick the substitute Republican Senate candidate?

And does McHenry have enough of his former staff in position in the state to ensure that he gets the nod?

That might be one thing they're hiding . . .
 
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is he old enough?

Is Patty old enough to be a Senator?

"jump in where you can and hang on"
Briscoe Darling to Sheriff Andy

Good question.

According to Wikipedia, the age requirement is 30 and Pat McHorny was born Oct 22, 1975.
 
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Shoot

Old enough by a mile (or 3 months)

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

All I can say is

that I hope that PM is not next-in-line behind Dole for the Senate nomination. That thought scares me.

If Dole goes the way of Number One Observatory Circle, then perhaps Orr should consider running for Senate instead of governor. I know, like and respect him tremendously.

I wonder how that race would play out: Orr vs. Hagan or Neal. Orr is not as politically expedient as Hagan, or as "controversial" as Neal.

Like Anglico says, to my knowledge.

Token

Why do you think Patty has gotten such a pass from NC Republicans?

I see plenty of Democrats criticizing Democrats on many issues, but it looks like the GOP is broadly in lockstep. The only criticisms I recall are those related to Art Pope's mission to push the party more toward the right, in the spirit of Karl Rove.

I read Republican blogs and right-wing news all the time . . . but dissent seems to be mostly missing.

There are a lot of people

angry with McHenry. You just dont hear about them in the news.

As for the larger issues of dissent vs lockstep, some of it is psychological. The opinions about how the world should work that inform a person's political view also effect dissent. What I mean is that if someone believes that Bush has been correct in expanding the powers of the executive branch then do you really think they are going to be inclined to question their local representative? And if someone believes that every person in this country deserves a voice no matter how small that voice is, how much weight do you think they will place in a 'voice of authority'.

There is a reason endorsements matter much more in the Republican primary than in the Democratic primary.

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

"Where, o where, has my little dissent gone...

Where, o where, can it be?"

Anglico raises an excellent question: why has

Patty has gotten such a pass from NC Republicans?

I wish I had an equally sufficient answer. I do not, but I have some speculations.

1. Party loyalty equals personal promotion. What better way to advance your political career, be it at the local, state or national level, than by praising the "big boys" as loudly and aggressively as possible. Unfortunately, creative or aggressive parroting is often confused with intelligence and public policy acumen.

2. With Democrats in control of most of state government, the GOP has adopted a circle-the-wagons mentality. Having adopted a "we are losing" mindset, there can be no room for dissenting thought. To dissent is to undermine the goals of the party and therefore cannot be tolerated. (Like the saying goes: The beatings will continue until morale improves.)

3. Bloggers tend to be more of the political activists, on both sides of the aisle. How many neutral-leaning blogs are there? Most have a bias, be it liberal, conservative, progressive, etc. Therefore, those Republicans who blog tend to hold their opinions passionately and express them in a like manner.

4. Marketshare. (This thought occurred to me while writing the below summation). While closely related to personal promotion, it is not quite the same. By personal promotion I mean within the party and political positions. By marketshare I mean overall viewership, Google hits and advertising revenue.

These are off the cuff. I am sure that these can be eloborated further, and that plenty more can be added. I hope this helps at least a little to understand the conservative mind.

(This last link is meant as humor.)

That's a scary cover

to match a scary topic. :)

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Agreed, but which is scarier?

The hubris it took to write it (or at least give it that title)?

Or, the hubris it took to put his own head on the cover (yes, that is profile of Snyder)?

Six in one hand, half a dozen in the other.

I thought it was Brando.

n/t


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Me, too.

Brando or Emperor Palpatine.

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Agreed, but which is scarier?

The hubris it took to write it (or at least give it that title)?

Or, the hubris it took to put his own head on the cover (yes, that is profile of Snyder)?

Six in one hand, half a dozen in the other.

Or the fact that I posted this one twice? Sorry.

Thanks for taking the time

for such a thoughtful response. Seems on the mark to me.

Without the Glasses....

Daniel Johnson looks exactly like this guy:

Left on 49

You are sooooo wrong.

Dan's hair is much much flatter.
 
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Oh, and here's his wife:

Daniel Johnson's wife, Creecy. Photo by September McCrady.
 
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She would make a good Senator's wife

.....or something like that...right Patty Mac?

She's got a beautiful smile.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Is he going to have enough

I know he wont have tens of millions of dollars. But will he have enough to get his name out there? Will he have enough to fight back against Patty's smear machine?

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

I haven't heard who he's hired for his fund-raising

but anyone with experience should have no trouble. There's a zillion people in and out of the district who want to get rid of this obstructionist liar who's surrounded by scandal from financial improprieties to a . . . shall we say . . . less-than-conservative lifestyle that his supporters would abhor.
 
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I met Daniel

I met Daniel and Creecy a while back in neighbor's house in Raleigh at breakfast long before he said he was running. He had already moved by the time I made the connection. They are just nice, regular people and, unassuming. I had no idea he was missing his legs due to military service. All I remember was that he worked for the DA's office. Smart guy. He deserves to win and the people of the 10th District deserve a real leader like him.

Wingnut?

Doug Clark strikes me as a fairly mainstream conservative and a thoughtful guy -- as evinced by his blog post expressing interest in a Democratic challenger to McHenry.

Does that really make him a wingnut?

Doesn't wingnuttery imply extremism, as opposed to mere disagreement with progressives on issues?

Just wondering.

You might be right.

But it's really getting hard to tell the lunatic fringe from the mainstream on the right side of the aisle these days.

That said, Clark's comment about the Pelosi Wing of the party, certainly qualifies him for consideration. He's using a glib right-wing radio talking point that found its way into the reactionary lexicon with almost no relationship to reality. Clark has evidently not been monitoring Pelosi's hard pull toward the center in her accommodation the Decider and his Blue Dog enablers.

To my knowledge.

Ed, on the blogs where he doesn't

reference the John Locke Fundation's newest "study", be it the dubious science behind Global Warming alarmists' claims or how North Carolinians are the highest-taxed species in the known universe, he's kinda mainstream.

I think there were two, maybe three of those blogs. :)

MoonBat Ed?

Wingnut?* Ed

Yep! The kind that spins like NC Spin.

Doug Clark strikes me as a fairly mainstream conservative and a thoughtful guy -- as evinced by his blog post expressing interest in a Democratic challenger to McHenry.* Ed

Good Grief Ed! Doug is a nice guy, but he is a confirmed waterboy for the conservative and legal establishment in this state and the Art Pope gang. Doug has a habit of stumbling into things before he knows it....ie.......The recent DWI Doug Judicical Dream Team Republican legal screw up. I am amazed that was not a major issue to your front page? Why is that?

Does that really make him a wingnut?* Ed

Yep! But this name calling or labeling business on the net is nothing, but the typical Republican-conservative, Democrat-liberal paradigm that goes nowhere, nor digs at the truth.

After all some of Doug's fans consider you a moonbat or whatever a Islamo-fascist is.

Doesn't wingnuttery imply extremism, as opposed to mere disagreement with progressives on issues?* Ed

Sure it does!

And what is extremism?

torture?

gutting the constitution and civil rights,?

undeclared illegal wars?

murdering and funding warmongering corporate thugs like Blackwater?

Bankrupting the Treasury of the United States?

Those are not disagreements, but grounds for treason trials and impeachment.

Just wondering.* Ed

It's not a debating society anymore Ed. Real people are dying and hurting and frankly scare to death of the future for this country.

And one other thing Ed! What do you hate...oops love Doug and America along with Dean Smith?

Doug Clark says BlueNC sucks and Ed Cone sucks up to Doug?

Ed Cone said:

Doug J says Doug C is a "proven left-wing liberal."

The folks at Blue NC called him a "wingnut," that is, an extreme right-winger.

You must be doing something right, Mr. Clark.

Posted on November 27, 2007 2:57 PM
Doug said:

Thanks, Ed. I'll settle for somewhere between the extremes.

Posted on November 27, 2007 6:19 PM
Doug said:

Ed,

Just following up. I read the string at BlueNC and appreciate your questioning their characterization of me as a wingnut.

I can't help commenting on the irony. I'm pointing to Daniel Johnson as a Democrat with potential to win in a strong Republican district. That can only happen, however, if voters who more or less hold my kind of political views support him. Yet people with more or less my kind of political views tend to be labeled as wingnuts by the BlueNC crowd. This is the same crowd that immediately embraced Jim Neal and seemed offended that Kay Hagan decided to run for the Senate after all. My conclusion: The Democratic Party in this state is lucky ... so far ... that the BlueNC strain isn't more influential.

Posted on November 27, 2007 6:42 PM
Connie Mack Jr said:

The Democratic Party in this state is lucky ... so far ... that the BlueNC strain isn't more influential.* Doug

That is what Robin Hayes thought until he ran into Larry Kissell's BlueNC team. I can't believe you and Ed continue to be establishment MSM buddies after all the nasty things that he has said about your political beliefs.

I've been called a few things in my time,

the BlueNC strain

but I've never been equated to a virus. ;o

Be careful, Doug—It's catching. Here's something to dwell on:

True ease in writing comes from art, not chance,
As those move easiest who have learned to dance.
'Tis not enough no harshness gives offense;
The sound must seem an echo to the sense.

Funny that you quote

A. Pope on BlueNC

But since it's Alexander Pope, I guess we can live with it. :)


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

I was wondering who would be the first

to get that. :)

Now read the first line again, and see if you can figure out the part that made me laugh...

Over my head

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Delightful....

and punny.


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

True ease in writing comes from ART, not chance,

As those move easiest who have learned to dance.

Funny....

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

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I have met Daniel several times

I was a member of his fathers church for six years and know his family real well. The guy who said his views were moderate to conservative was Judge Forest Ferrell a well respected and very wealthy man who politics are believed also to be of a moderate conservative view. While few actulally do know what Johssons views are and he has a primay opponett, Steve Ivester, a nice guy but way out of his league, Johnsons handlers are portraying as a Basil Whitener, the last Democrat to hold the district, Democrat.

I have no idea

I have no idea who Basil Whitener is.

But I have met Judge Ferrell, and his stamp of approval is all I need.

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

Patty LOSING in 2008 would be easily as comforting to me as

Rick Santorum LOSING in 2006. Two holier-than-thou phonies out of the country's business. More, please.

North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

LOL!

I'd forgotten about them.

it's simply time for Patty to go

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Pam Spaulding
Durham, NC USA

Pam's House Blend
www.pamshouseblend.com

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Pam Spaulding
Durham, NC USA

Pam's House Blend
www.pamshouseblend.com

I don't get it . . .

What's the deal with the spider web? I feel like I'm missing something . . .

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Thomas Jefferson said you always get the rulers you deserve.

it's a web of deceit

 
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All lies lead to McHenry?

n/t


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

among friends

Nothing wrong with a little bondage among friends, lol.

"jump in where you can and hang on"
Briscoe Darling to Sheriff Andy

No, sweetie, I think you mean "bonding" among friends

not bondage. :)

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.