Lack of love shown to BlueNC from our candidates.

Several posters have taken Kay Hagen to task for her lack of posting to BlueNC since the primary. I would like to expand that thread to include almost all of the current and former candidate’s lack of showing BlueNC any love since the primary.

With the exception of Larry Kissell, Marshall Adame, and Dan Besse I have not seen any of them posting regularly here.

Why is that? I have my theory but what say you members of the BlueNC community?


Because they don't care?

Governor - Beverly Perdue only needed us when she was running against a Dem.

Lt. Governor - Dalton was never loved here and never will be, so why would he bother.

Senate - Hagan isn't a netroots kind of person.

Let's ask the question the other way, why should they?

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.

i have different questions ...

The question we need to ask ourselves is: What are we doing to help our Democratic candidates? Do we care to help them?

If we do, why aren't we going to their events, covering their speeches, and blogging about them?

If we don't, Robert P. is right, why should they come here?

"It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit." - Harry Truman

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Those are the right questions...

I mean substitute "county party" with "BlueNC" and you'll have the same questions I've asked since I've returned to NC. When it comes down to it, political candidates do make tactical decisions, and if there is no perceived benefit, they are not as likely to act. I'm not saying it's admirable, but it's real life, especially in regards to a campaign.

And I think in the past 10-20 years, most candidates have learned to live off their individual campaigns rather than rely on "unreliable" party organizations. Don't get me wrong, we DO have good party organizations, but the center of gravity for a candidate remains with their own campaign. Whether this means hosting their OWN blogs on their websites, creating their own voter lists, etc.

So what does this mean, re: BlueNC? I agree with Leslie that if this is the type of blog that posts/covers political events/news, and that this coverage spreads, i.e. gets picked up by other media outlets, candidates will be more likely to come here to ensure "their" story gets told. That's the media piece.

The activist piece comes from BlueNCers showing they are a group that DOES act, whether making phone calls, knocking on doors, hosting events, etc. I know y'all do that, but other candidates may not be so sure. I admit, I have yet to go to a BlueNC event, but from I've seen/heard, they've been very successful in bringing the progressive voices of NC to come out. Maybe BlueNC buttons/stickers/something need to be made so that people can see that when you are out and about on the political trail, that you are part of this identifiable group.

So, developing BlueNCTV, "covering" more political events/speeches in your home counties, organizing events/activism...these are just a few ways to ensure BlueNC "matters." This could be organized where we "assign" individuals to cover campaign or everyone would just have the onus on them informally to "cover" events in their hometown/county. And maybe that's NOT BlueNC: maybe this is just a blog for all us NC political junkies to gather and swap thoughts...and there's nothing wrong with that, certainly.

I think BlueNC is a great place for any candidate to come, to either gain volunteers/activists on one side or to debate their platforms and get some tough questions in the "safety" of this environment on the other side.

In any case, I'm looking forward to what happens next!

Phillip Hunter Gilfus,
DNC Member-Elect (NC),
Democratic National Committee

I like this question better

What are we doing to help progressive candidates?

I'd rather we focus on this than whether a given candidate is kissing up to this blog. This is not to say that I haven't been disappointed with some candidates' responses (or lack of response) to this forum when he/she was openly soliciting its support, but leaving that aside, I would hope that we could use our respective experiences to tout a given candidate's progressive credentials.

Wouldn't it be more desirable for this blog to be a force for progress than a thicket through which candidates must pass before being considered eligible for support?

If BLUENC becomes a place candidates dread visiting for fear of getting into a "gotcha" snare, BLUENC will cease attracting any visits from serious candidates at all.

Bru' (peace, love, harmony, yaddy yaddy yaddy)

Hagan: H-A-G-A-N

I like where this discussion could go, but please spell her name correctly.

Not for the grammar police, but for political branding for the lesser known of the two US Senate candidates.


I'm a busy, but I still you love you guys!

Hey, I read BlueNC daily, post infrequently, and sponsor an itty-bitty ad. My posts frankly are all campaign material that I am blasting across the intertubes and hoping for MSM coverage on occasion.

I spend most of my time working my day job, knocking on voter doors in the district, and making calls begging for money. When I can, I pop in on local County party and other candidate events. But with 97 days until the election, I owe all of you a laser-like focus on winning my race and taking out a Jesse Helms Republican™. I appreciate your indulgence.

Ed Ridpath

Ed Ridpath

Sounds like fun. I saw on your site research is needed.

I work in Sanford, so I get home later and I've got a lot of family business on weekends for at least the next month, due to the move, but I would be happy to help from the computer, etc. until I get freed up enough to assist out in the public more.

E-mail me if you are interested.

North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

Crossposted from another thread

I don't know why folks think candidates owe us anything. It's our job to find out everything we can about them and then support them or not.

For example, I invited Walter Dalton here a half dozen times. He can't be bothered to respond, which is completely his prerogative. He owes us nothing. If his competitor weren't a complete Neanderthal, I'd be voting Republican for LG. As it is, I may yet abstain. We all make our choices and Dalton's made his.

When it's clear that this forum has benefits they need, they do and will show up. That's why Munger was here - he needed some visibility - and he got it.

On the other hand, I've actually discouraged some candidates from wasting time here. Unless there's a tangible value we can offer in terms of buzz, fundraising, idea-generation, or whatever, they should be out doing the grunt work on the ground.

Most North Carolina Democrats could care less what the left wing of their party thinks. In the long run, that'll be a problem for them. But in the short run, they can safely blow off progressive voices.


Jesus Swept, this December

Lack of Love Shown

It really depends on how technologically astute one is with the internet, blogs, and social networking, etc. There are some politicians who might be comfortable with technology and others who are not. Another factor could be generational with younger politicians more willing to embrace technology and older politicians who would like to cling to interpersonal communications (i.e., face to face)as vehicles to get their messages across to voters.