Live Blogging with Kay Hagan: Spin Zone

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Thanks again to Kay Hagan for joining us today. We'll gradually move the discussion over to this thread in order to keep all the commentary separated from the actual Q&A. And thanks to everyone for being on your best behavior. Tough questions are good questions. So. Whaddyathink?

Comments

Gonna go ahead and say it

I am very impressed with Kay Hagan. Very.



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Good job yall

Another successful live blog.

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Great questions

Thanks so much to all who participated -- it was a great exchange, I thought.

Thanks, Colleen

We're always open.

Colleen ;) J. Levi Knapp A

Colleen ;)

J. Levi Knapp

A great many people think they are thinking when they are really rearranging their prejudices.
William James (1842 - 1910)

Levi

curses

Have to agree with y'all. As a Neal fan, I don't want to like Hagan ... but I do. And I didn't want to be impressed tonight. But I am.

::::heavy sigh::::

I fear that by May 6 the politicky quarter of my brain is going to be nothing more than mush.

"It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit." - Harry Truman

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Heh

That quarter of my brain has been mush for a couple of years now.

I get you, Leslie

and I agree wholeheartedly.

My expectations were completely blown out of the water and I am so very impressed.

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North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

As a county chair I'm supposed to be impartial

at least until after the primary, so I've tried not to connect with either US senate candidate (though I have followed Jim Neal's posts and threads here with great interest and approval). But a couple of Saturdays ago, I got a call from Kay Hagan's staff wanting to set up a campaign stop for her in or around Asheboro, on her way back from Fayetteville and Sanford. We managed to work some last minute magic and get about 25 people at the local coffee exchange to meet her, and I was very impressed.

Not just with Kay, who answered everybody's questions, talked with everyone personally, and generally just hung out with us for over an hour, but with her staff and her son, who played advance man. Maybe it was the rainy Saturday, maybe it was because we were her last stop on the way home, but it felt very special and personal and more than a few of our Randolph County Democrats commented on that. (Of course, as Randolph County Dems, we've learned to thrive on neglect!)

I'm hoping Neal will come through some day and wow everyone, too. But Kay Hagan set a pretty high bar that Saturday.

Thank you

This is good to hear.



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Kay rocked that live blog.

We truly have two very gifted Democratic US Senatorial Candidate from North Carolina.

My feeling is that Kay has the pulse of the State and is willing to extend that to the Country in her possible future votes in the US Senate.

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North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

She did better than Bev or Richard, BUT

I found her response to the debate question misleading. There have been a number of debates that were skipped or ignored by her campaign and the debate they just had she SHOULD have missed as she didn't complete any of the paperwork on time. However, once pushed by the Neal campaign she completely rewrote the rules, removing all real "debateness", and said it was that or nothing. I hardly find that spirit conveyed in this comment.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

I wish I knew more of the facts about this

I trust your judgment on the back story, though.

The telco immunity question still frustrates me. I don't buy the premise that doing something illegal because the government asks you to is an acceptable defense. And if her position is that the government itself is doing something illegal, then why isn't somebody going to jail?

PS I think the dueling threads from last night were trickier to manage than a single live-blog.

re: last night

They came, which they didn't have to do. Jim Neal has made an online presence so Kay really has to respond. But, in the Governor's race neither of them has made an effort online, so there was no reason for them to do it - and they did!

So, kudos to them for showing up, kudos to Kay for showing up. I've been twittering with brianr about possible ways of streaming liveblogs and/or debates next time. There are a couple interesting options we should consider that DO NOT REQUIRE reloading the page. That would probably work well for us.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

If you build it

we will come?

:)

Or something like that.

Still supporting FISA.

Once up on a time this was a big deal, everyone seems to have accepted her answer? I'm not sure why a company that breaks the law gets such good treatment but individuals do not?

I don't care if George Bush asks you to or not, if it is wrong it is wrong.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

I support FISA, too.

It is a big deal. I like Hagan and I am impressed by her. I'm with Robert, though. I still disagree with her on this issue. Immunity for telcos is ridiculous -- if they were coerced like they claim I don't know why they need immunity.

On the other hand, I was working in telecom right after 9/11. It was my understanding (then) that the special monitoring cards going into the telephony and optical switches were required and, honestly, none of us peons were aware the telcos had an option. It was clear to us that our counterpart peons at the telcos didn't think they had an option either. It was our understanding there was no option. They would be in by a certain date or licenses would be reviewed. (I have no first hand knowledge of that last sentence ... just hearsay.)

Even today, I don't know if they had an option or not. But I do know that once the cards were installed and turned over to the feds, no one at any telco had Admin access or any kind of access to them -- locally or remotely. They couldn't have known what was being done with them and they couldn't have shut them down or denied the feds the use of them without physically pulling the card from the switch. If that happened, I can see the telco Central Office now ... Homeland security knocking on the door and the engineers inside trying to decide who was going to let them in and be the first to say, "Yes, sir."

"It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit." - Harry Truman

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Truth Be Told

Kudos to Sen. Hagan and the BlueNC moderators who responded well to a hostile environment that was developing.

The liveblog went great and I was impressed with Hagan's thorough responses to our questions--she may have answered the questions as completely as any liveblog participant has since I've been here. She didn't duck the tough questions, which I feel as some livebloggers tend to do, and folks ought to respect her for that at least.

I admit that I was leaning in Neal's direction before this liveblog, but now I'm definitely back on the fence. I may not get off the fence until whenever I go to cast my primary ballot.

But, I will say, if Kay Hagan wins my vote in the primary, it'll be, in large part, because of this answer to the question on S-CHIP vs. Tobacco:

If I were in Washington, we would not have had to choose between health insurance for kids and taxing our tobacco farmers. People seem to assume the bill had to be written that way, but it didn't, so it is a false choice to ask whether I would have supported the bill that was voted on.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

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There are people in every time and every land who want to stop history in its tracks. They fear the future, mistrust the present, and invoke the security of the comfortable past which, in fact, never existed. - Robert F. Kennedy

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There are people in every time and every land who want to stop history in its tracks. They fear the future, mistrust the present, and invoke the security of the comfortable past which, in fact, never existed. - Robert F. Kennedy

It was rather telling in the sharpness brought to the table

here tonight. Not missing a beat is something to be considered.

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North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

Or, something

else.

Thank you all for putting this together and continuing to be such great advocates for our candidates.

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North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

I'm both relieved and heartened

by this exchange, because I know our party will field a candidate against Dole that I can genuinely support.

I also hope Kay (and Colleen) will now consider BlueNC to be a (relatively) :) safe place to expose information about her campaign and platform issues, so we can all get to know her better.

My take is a lot of good stuff asked and answered

but an evaluation on the OLF questions I asked which were to stop the fight before it started, she ducked.

I appreciate that she is opposed to the OLF, but she did not catch that I am asking her to start a coalition to stop the study in NC on a community just so 30 months down the road, representatives can say no. She wants to be the Senator of North Carolina, 16+ Counties have been fighting this OLF for 7 years. Plus the help of communities like BlueNC. There is a voice in NC that is saying NO. But our representatives just do not wish to hear? How much more proof do we need to show NE NC does not wish this?

Their is not a single educated representative on this subject that says Camden or Gates County should support this process.

So why should Camden or Gates County have to endure 30 months of the Navy's misinformation? Of the story changing on them as they come up with valid points that blow the Navy out of the water?

There is a very small window right now to stop this. Before this next NEPA process starts, it can be halted.

All our State Representatives have to do is band togather and say "Navy, you had your chance. Not again. Your last study was to flawed for us to just allow you to reset and redo. North Carolina and North Carolinians do not wish to host this OLF. You had your chance and you did such a poor job of telling your story that there is no way you will convince anyone in our state any thorough reassessed requirements are legitimate."

Once this NEPA process starts, our representatives will say, oooo, the process has started and we now have to let it go to its conclusion. This will sicken me. It will allow two communities to have to fight our Navy for the right to exist.

Does anyone else see a fundamental problem with that?

While this is posted under Senator Hagan, this could be posted under any of the representatives in this state. None are willing to take a stand and ACT to get those two communities removed from this finalists list. Especially when you realize that there is no study to substantiate placing them as a finalist in the first place. All the studies are historical and do not represent the requirements of this new NEPA study.

I see an op-ed newspaper column in your future

I'll help you write it. Let's assume we have 500 words max to work with. Get started and send me a draft? Aim for publication in the News and Observer.

I'm just ghostin'. This is your column.

ahhhh yuck

I have no clue how to write that kind of stuff.

I'm a bull, charging down the isle, goring anything that moves. I do not have the political fancy-writing to do an op ed. I would miss the point and cause more harm then good????

You've seen my writings. They are hideously long. I would never be able to whittle em down to 500 words.

And to think, I do not have an associates degree because I do not like to write.....

I'm just ghostin'. This is your column.

and what language was this? ghostin? What was wrong with what I wrote?

But I will try to generate something. You have helped so much that I should honor your request.

Electing a US Senator is a very Big Deal......

Kay is a very distinguished person. She has served in the State Senate. She understands the issues.

I have met Kay and find her very engaging, in fact, I really do like her. Likewise, I also know Jim and I very much like him as well. Both distinguished, both worthy.

Seperating ones-self from the personal assessment and looking to the enormity of what we are about to do in North Carolina (Elect a US Senator) one should consider who (Jim or Kaye) will most consistantly reserve themselves, thier conscience, for "the people" in the face of enourmous pressure in an enviorment where vanity, pride and the nod of approval is valued as much as gold itself.

Our Constitution provides personal protections and assurances to the "Individual" and aspects of governance to the Federal Branch. What is left unaddressed is the purview of the States. It provides no assurances or personal protection to "entities", a Corporation for example. When judging a matter of Constitutional propriety, only the damage or violation to the individual is relevant. No consideration of the "Entities" intent, if it violated the individual, should even be a consideration. "Entities" have no Constitutional protections insofar as "rights" are concerned. They follow the Rule of Law, or they do not.

For "We the People", the real judgment is which one of the two will resist the forces of association and power. Which will be willing and able to stand alone if necessary? Which one will stand in the Gap for "The People" and thereby for The Constitution which is the only thing standing between the people and tyranny.

Our job then, as citizens, is to be detached enough to make a rational and well thought decision.

Thank you Kaye. It takes a measure of guts to put yourself out there. I admire that.

Marshall Adame
2014 U.S. Congress Candidate NC-03

Marshall, I declare, you are sounding so much like the Statesman

I so dearly want to see my Senator be. In a diary a few months ago I made a comment that was taken down along with the whole diary by the disgruntled diarist who took his marbles and went home. I regret that so much but I'll try and capture the spirit of what I said then.

The Senate can be a very lonely place. You may be the last man or woman left standing, literally, on an issue that just has an undeniable gravity. You must have the courage to keep standing when everyone else has been bartered with, bought off, or had their arm twisted off by powers the likes of which I can only barely imagine. Tom Delay on steroids. You must be the one who just does the right thing no matter what.

To me Senator Barbara Boxer is a like that.

Fresh Air from WHYY, February 10, 2005 · Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) recently made headlines with her tough questioning of Condoleezza Rice during her confirmation hearings for Secretary of State. Boxer was also the only senator to object to the certification of Ohio's electoral votes, bringing about a two-hour debate on the matter.

Boxer became a senator in January 1993, after 10 years representing the area around California's Marin County in the House. Boxer has recently written a novel based on her 12 years in the Senate. It will be published later this year.

It's my hope for NC that our next Senator will make me proud too.

My two cents...

I thought the live blog went very well.

One of the challenges of live blogging for candidates is the ability to give answers of substance in real time when you only have an hour. It would be a nice idea to have a follow-up thread for readers who requested and received additional information from the candidates about questions that received thin answers in the liveblog. This could serve as a resource for people looking for more fleshed-out responses and could be linked to the original liveblog post.

Also -- for moderators, do we know how many of the politicians who have participated in the live blog are doing the typing themselves or dictating to an aide? Personally I don't care who's typing, what matters is that the answers are coming from the candidate, who is ultimately responsible for what goes out under his/her name. [My advice to candidates who aren't speedy typists is to delegate it to the fastest keyboardist in your shop so you can answer more questions (and give more detail).]

One more suggestion for the road -- has BlueNC considered using CoverItLive for the liveblogs? It's embeddable code; I've used it and it's much faster for comment/response, and it archives the entire liveblog and the moderators have the ability to approve/decline any comments before they are posted, enabling "civility control."

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Pam Spaulding
Durham, NC USA

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Pam Spaulding
Durham, NC USA

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I'll look into it, Pam

We do encourage campaigns to look at the questions as they are posted throughout the day on the question thread. They are free to copy and paste answers they've already prepared. I don't think anyone requires that the candidate do the typing although there is something fun about the thought that the candidate is the one at the keyboard....at least for some of the questions.

Thanks for your help.



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Pam, that looks awesome!

It's very similar to platforms I've used before. Thanks! Fellow FP's, we should absolutely look at that for another live blog.

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