New York Times editorial page: The Decline of North Carolina

The New York Times editorial page weighs in on the decline of North Carolina.

But the bad news keeps on coming from the Legislature, and pretty soon a single day of the week may not be enough to contain the outrage.

The editorial lays out the laundry list of our General Assembly's attack on progress. And it sums up things quite accurately:

North Carolina was once considered a beacon of farsightedness in the South, an exception in a region of poor education, intolerance and tightfistedness. In a few short months, Republicans have begun to dismantle a reputation that took years to build.


A comment on the editorial.

The decline of humanity in North Carolina will take its toll. One organization to which I belong has already canceled a national convention in the state, and the latest reactionary laws will alienate more. North Carolina is a beautiful state, but its Republican government is ugly in the extreme, and many will not wish to spend one penny to support it.

Global Warming

As another NY Times commenter noted: "More proof of global warming -- North Carolina is adopting the political climate of South Carolina."

Meanwhile, today's Smoky Mountain News writes about the armadillo making it's way into the North Carolina mountains.


The measure of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little. - FDR

this state is headed the way

this state is headed the way of most totalitarian Tpublican states, right down the drain.
Taking away unemployment benefits, more homes will go into foreclosure which will bring down home prices even further which will send more businesses out of business, more jobs lost, people leaving the state, companies leaving the state and so on.
My wife and I are working as hard as we can to get our house ready to sell so we can move to a BLUE STATE, Oregon, better weather, mostly democrats and far less religious zealots.

..and their response will be

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.


The measure of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little. - FDR

I guarantee it wont, we are

I guarantee it wont, we are leaving here so fast we will be outa state before the door closes.
I have hated this state for almost 2 decades, hate the weather, hate the politics (and that is only going to get worse for about 4 years) and way too many religious zealots for my taste.
Only reason I have stayed here so long was to help my mother, she has needed help the past 20 years but recently passed away at age 95 so absolutely nothing keeping us here now except poor real estate market making it a slow process to get house sold.
If I won the lottery today I would literally be leaving the state tomorrow morning.

I love Oregon, very nice state, good weather east of the Cascades, consistently very Blue politically and a high percentage at least 25% Atheist, great fishing, gorgeous scenery.
Life is too short to be surrounded by delusional psychotics voting for lunatics to destroy everything around you.
These Tpublican nutters are drunk with power right now and could absolutely not careless if 90% of the entire state showed up with pitchforks and ropes. They are insane, you can not have rational discourse with the insane.
Prying these lunatics out of power will be like digging up an oak tree with a spoon.

So my response to them is "Let her rip" Destroy it all, burn it down then salt the soil because nothing less than total destruction will snap these idiot Tpublican voters out of their Faux News propaganda induced stupor.
Raleigh could go the way of Detroit if left to Totalitarian Tpublican American Taliban Rule.
But that is what its going to take.

East of the Cascades

Too far away from the Ocean. Plus, there's bears. They may be Democratic bears, but they still play too rough. :)

To be honest, I can't blame you. I fell in love with the Olympic Peninsula the first time I visited my sister, and subsequent visits only reinforced that. Family is the only thing keeping me from migrating. I can't leave my (adult) children. I did that before when I was in the Army, and it damned near killed me.

But when you do move, keep in touch. I've already tracked down a couple of former BlueNC'ers while visiting the West Coast, and I'll come visit you too. Bears and all. :)

Me too

Despite several great new friends I've met in the last year or two, through FB and BlueNC, I too fantasize about pulling out and leaving this land to the idiots. My parents just hit 70 and my in-laws aren't far behind. Between them and my newly adult daughter I guess I'm here for the duration.

I spent a considerable amount of energy researching many other regions of the country about twenty years ago, and concluded I liked it here best, but now the climate is behaving more and more like south Georgia or north Florida every year, so that's out the window too.

The two regions I lean most toward are the Pacific NW and Vermont, I just don't think I'm cut out for so much snow. Then again, in a few more years VT might be a lot like the NC I grew up in.


"...the question is not whether we will be extremists, but what kind of extremists we will be."

Martin Luther King, Jr., Letter from Birmingham Jail

Well the weather here for the

Well the weather here for the foreseeable future is basically like being in the Amazon, brutal, cruel, unbearable, inhumane and oppressive heat and humidity that is only fit for Orchids & Reptiles with about 4-6 weeks of just cold thrown in just as a cruel joke, not pleasure of snow, just cold. Basically its shake and bake.

Central Oregon doesn't have a lot of rain, has mild summers where even if it gets to 90 the humidity is low and there is usually a cool breeze coming off the mountains and the many ice cold rivers. In Bend today it was 86 but with only a 23% humidity and cool breeze, real feel was about 83 and its in the low 40s at night.
Here today it was 88 with a surprisingly low (for here)65% humidity which gives it a real feel heat index of 98. then in the 70s at night with humidity approaching 100%
Absolutely miserable night and day.

I like actual seasons where you have a REAL winter with snow for about 3-4 months a real spring a mild summer a nice fall.
OR like Southern California where I grew up where you have just perfect spring weather 350+ days a year where the temp is 72 during the day and 67 at night with humidity in the 20s.

Here its just bad, bad cold winter with no snow just enough ice to cause power outages, short spring, unbearable, insane humid summers not for for human habitation and a short fall, both summer and fall plagued with Hurricanes and tropical storms.
Then the BUGS, OMFG the bugs and the snakes.
Jeebus I cant wait til we get this house sold.

BTW if anyone you know is looking for a Townhome ours will be a very good deal, in great shape, new professional gas stove, new granite countertops, new stainless fridge, leaving the washer and dryer that is in perfect condition and only a year old, selling it with my kamado grill and full nice set of patio furniture plus a small greenhouse on the deck. Fairly new AC and Furnace, just doing a full crawlspace encapsulation now, all lights in the house are LED, everything will be freshly painted inside and out including the large back deck. We are leaving $7000+ in the various extras like fridge and W/D etc. If you MUST live in NC at least its a nice house to live in.