Well, here's something interesting...

I'm no lawyer, but here's what I can find from the State Board of Elections Statute regarding sample ballots:

§ 163-165.2. Sample ballots.
(a) County Board to Produce and Distribute Sample Ballots. - The
county board of elections shall produce sample ballots, in all the
necessary ballot styles of the official ballot, for every election
to be held in the county. The sample ballots shall be given an
appearance that clearly distinguishes them from official ballots.
The county board shall distribute sample ballots to the chief
judge of every precinct in which the election is to be conducted.
The chief judge shall post a sample ballot in the voting place and
may use it for instructional purposes. The county board of
elections may use the sample ballot for other informational
purposes.
(b) Document Resembling an Official Ballot to Contain
Disclaimer. - No person other than a board of elections shall
produce or disseminate a document substantially resembling an
official ballot unless the document contains on its face a
prominent statement that the document was not produced by a board
of elections and is not an official ballot.
(2001-460, s. 3, effective January 1, 2002)

And here's a piece of paid literature being distributed at early polling places around Winston-Salem by paid people for a brand new PAC called the Winston-Salem Black Political Action Committee:

Bad Ballot

People have actually been carrying them into the polling places and trying to turn them in as their ballots, which speaks, i believe, to their resemblance to actual ballots. Never mind that nowhere on this piece of paper does the word "sample" appear. The words "official ballot" sure do. Prominently, one might say. Like, right at the top.

Where did this formerly blank ballot come from? Who is the Winston-Salem Black PAC? Why didn't they file the organizational reports that were due this week?

Why doesn't Rob Coffman, head of Forsyth County Elections, find anything wrong with any of this?

If you'd like to give him a call, here's his number: (336) 703-2801.

or drop him an email: FORSYTH.boe@ncmail.net

This is just so wack that I don't know what to do.

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Frank, you called?

He found nothing wrong? Granted the sponsor is listed down at the bottom....but that's not enough. It should have SAMPLE in huge letters across the front - even across the front of the ballot.

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Yes, I agree

The "offical ballot" should have been replaced with SAMPLE BALLOT. It's very unclear as to whether or not it is truly a sample ballot.

As an aside, Mike Gravel is still on the ticket? Huh.

www.MoBetterChange.blogspot.com

Still being handed out today...

Again, the guy to contact is ROB COFFMAN. He's tired of hearing from me.

The WSBPAC has a great name, I think. Makes a first time voter think that maybe they represent a lot of people, instead of just three people with the budget to staff a few big early voting places for a couple of weeks.

Frank...what do the actual ballots look like?

Are they similar?

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Thanks.......

that makes it even worse.

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I forgot to say..

Guilford County is still voting on the touch srceens not on paper thanks to the Director of Elections here who would rather have taxpayers shell out MILLIONS of dollars than to let the activists in the county recommend optical scan that wouldn't cost us anything.

So, we're still voting on these black boxes albeit with a toilet paper printer attached.

Do I sound BITTER?

Progressive Democrats of North Carolina

No, no....really, not bitter at all



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I meant to say

:D

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I put you on the front page of MyDD

Not necessarily presidential politics, but I thought it might work. I'm sure Jerome will take it down if it doesn't.

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Good work Frank

Nice work Frank. We need to make noise about this kind of garbage. You're doing great work out there

I don't think this had anything to do with

any of the campaigns.

I will admit to not wanting it to be from any of the campaigns and I'm perfectly happy with being called naive.

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Take your slime elsewhere

Race-baiting attacks have no place here.

Bev Perdue?!

?!

W-S Black PAC is a Astro-Turf Front for the Dellinger Campaign

This takes about 30 seconds to track down the source of. Here is the PAC filing for the Winston-Salem Black Political Action Committee:

http://www.co.forsyth.nc.us/elections/CampaignReports/2008/Political_Action_Committees/WS_Black_Poli...

Everett Witherspoon is a partisan for the Dellinger campaign. I'm not sure if he is paid by the campaign or is simply a volunteer. The group is a front organization for the Hampton Dellinger campaign which has been trying to use it to manipulate the African-American vote in Forsyth county.

Far from being a generic construct, the name is meant to cause confusion. There is a long existing group called the Black Political Action League, which this group is trying to impersonate.

Just to be clear about my position, I've been a volunteer and supporter for both Obama and Dan Besse.

I suggest you be a bit more circumspect

in the accusations you level against private citizens and public figures alike at 3 in the morning.

I'm pretty sure the Constitution allows Mr. Witherspoon, whoever he is, the right to speak out as he sees fit on political issues. Believe it or not, voters in Winston-Salem, black or white, don't need to be told how to vote. Nor do individual African American citizens, I am sure, appreciate being belittled as "front groups."

Here in Raleigh, there are several influential organizations in the Black community who have endorsed different candidates. How did our campaign respond? By accusations of criminal conduct? By seeking injunctions or actions by the Elections Board to shut down their speech? No. We have worked hard to talk to individual voters and convince them why they should cast their vote for Hampton Dellinger.

Should the word "SAMPLE" appear on that document that Frank put up? By my reading of the statute, yes. Look closely,though, at the part of the statute that was followed - "PAID FOR BY...." You could look up this information, and draw your offensive conclusions, because the law was followed.

You should be very careful in drawing conclusions based upon the fact that a person has actively supported someone. There are other flyers circulating in Winston-Salem that blatantly disregard the "PAID FOR BY" part of the statute. They endorse Dan Besse and others. What I won't do is jump to the questionable conclusion that because those flyers list Dan Besse on them, he must have paid for them.

"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire

Caveats

Reading over my post above, I have to concede that the stated association with the Dellinger campaign is pretty bold. Checking Dellinger's campaign filings, I could find no record of a payment to Witherspoon or Wiley who is listed as the group's treasurer.

Here is what I do know: Witherspoon has represented the Dellinger campaign at events and recently spoke for the campaign at the Forsyth County Democratic Convention in April. He has been actively campaigning for Dellinger at multiple party functions and election sites. He handed-out flyers trying to associate Dellinger with Obama at the Winston-Salem Barack Obama Town Hall last Tuesday.

It is possible that this is simply a case of an overzealous supporter taking his own initiative. I do think the connection between the Dellinger campaign and WS Black PAC needs to be probed closely.

Boyce v. Cooper

Look it up.

"Hampton Dellinger WILL be a great Lieutenant Governor." - Al Gore.

"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire

Here's how it should be done:

Steve Noble's picks from a downloadable PDF.

Clearly labeled "Sample".

Photobucket

Thanks to Ryan Teague Beckwith for the link to this.

You know what, though Frank

I don't even like it with SAMPLE written across it.

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BUT...

That one doesn't say who paid for printing and distributing it.

"Hampton Dellinger WILL be a great Lieutenant Governor." - Al Gore.

"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire

It hasn't been paid for or distributed

It's available only as a downloadable jpeg or pdf file.

And here, the creator of the ballot (or the Wake County BOE) made sure that it was marked so that in the case that someone chose to print it, said paper would be clearly and prominently marked as a sample ballot.

Is this not a violation of state and federal law?

My understanding is that if you are distributing materials advocating for or against state or federal candidates that you need to be registered as a state or federal PAC. The W-S Black PAC is only registered as a local PAC and as such can only advocate for county level or below candidates.

I'm watching County Party leadership on this, Mike

They know about it. We'll see how upset they get.

I've been waiting a week and a half for some response. Zip.

Duly noted.

These thing crop up every election cycle

And it starts at the top and works it's way down . The wealthier campaigns hand cash off to supporters- those supporters in turn start working the lower ballet campaigns- cash changes hands and in all honesty- usually everybody gives and only a few really benefit- EXCEPT the top ticket. They are used mostly (in my experience) in our African American communities. Sometimes- they will be given out on Sunday's after church at a fish fry/ bbq. It's wrong- it's unfortunate - but it happens- every election cycle. Now- I will say- this group is especially 'crafty' I know the ones I have seen floating around in the past will use language like "OFFICIAL BALLET" sample...or something along those lines.

listen

In 2006, in Guilford County, Rory Blake's name didn't appear on the ballots given out at the polling sites by the BOE. He was the Democratic Candidate facing Howard Coble. It was attributed to a "printer's error". The BOE said sorry. That was it.

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