Wilmington NC - TRUTH ABOUT SEN. BOSEMAN AND THE N-WORD

". . . not only used the vicious racial slur “nigger” in front of her adopted child, as has been reported, but, in fact, “all offensive language."

This post is sensational, but not in a good way. I'm really getting sick and tired of BlueNC becoming a place where folks come to discuss other folks marital problems and the troubles that arise from them. I've turned commenting off. If the author does not like it, he is welcome to take blog posts like THIS to a more fitting site. - Robert P.

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I feel for everyone in this case, particularly the little boy,

who has to know that one of his legal parents is using the media to destroy one of his other parents.

For what it's worth, I raised my son in a home where words are just words. No, we don't use the word "nigger" to refer to anyone, but we discussed the word and the ramifications of its use. He certainly heard it - we live in North Carolina, after all. He came home from first grade in Eden asking me what a nigger was. As for other words, I have never censored my speech around him, even when he was little.

No words, no concepts were off-limits in my house. My son graduated in the top of his class, challenging his teachers to do their best, and is on his way to a top-notch college education.

Sen. Boseman, no matter what kind of parent she is, will be crucified by people who have never met her, because of words someone else say they heard her speak, and even though they won't say so, because of her willingness to be honest about her lifestyle.

In re: I feel for everyone in this case, particularly the little

For what it's worth, I raised my son in a home where words are just words.

(Words may be just words to some however people have gotten killed over words.) TPA

No words, no concepts were off-limits in my house. My son graduated in the top of his class, challenging his teachers to do their best, and is on his way to a top-notch college education.

(That's great however I hope he knows not to say certain things to certain folks because again some people have gotten killed over words.) TPA

Sen. Boseman, no matter what kind of parent she is, will be crucified by people who have never met her, because of words someone else say they heard her speak, and even though they won't say so, because of her willingness to be honest about her lifestyle.

(Words matter and we all have to suffer the consequences if we use a poor choice of words to certain folks. Out of all of my reading and have been in her presence, I have not seen it where her lifestyle is the issue. In my opinion it is about her respresentation/lack of.

I have not really commented on it because I am still trying to get a clear of understanding. However words matter and lifesyles does to when it comes to representing others. I have no problem with Senator Boseman lifestyles because I have all kinds of friends and associates and what they do is their business until it affects me on a personally.

Example: John Edwards lifestyle is being looked at in a different way now since the affair. Again that is his personal business but when it affected me personally by asking for my support politically then that's a real problem.

I will continue to follow this because although I can't vote for the Senator she represent me as a Senator in NC.) TPA

"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel

"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel

Here's a little help

Out of all of my reading and have been in her presence, I have not seen it where her lifestyle is the issue. In my opinion it is about her respresentation/lack of.

I have not really commented on it because I am still trying to get a clear of understanding.

This is a list of Boseman's sponsored legislation. From my experience in reviewing what other N.C. lawmakers have worked for, Boseman's efforts are considerably more substantive than many others, and are much more geared to helping the total community than her Libertarian-ish opponent Michael Lee's would be.

Don't forget that we are in an election cycle, Curmilus. And don't forget that, whatever "revalations" came out in her child custody battle, Boseman was still found to be an acceptable mother for her child.

This bears repeating.

don't forget that, whatever "revalations" came out in her child custody battle, Boseman was still found to be an acceptable mother for her child.

And don't you forget

I am not really concerned at the moment about her being an acceptable mother but only her representation in the legislature in which affects me personally.

"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel

"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel

Thanks for your help however . . .

Her sponsored legislation may be good for you however is it good for those who can vote for here and those who she represent which is the entire State of North Carolina?

Don't forget that we are in an election cycle, Curmilus. And don't forget that,
whatever "revalations" came out in her child custody battle, Boseman was still found to be an acceptable mother for her child.

Okay, however again I am not so much concerned about
custody battle but her representation and the use of the word "nigger." If and whenever I decide to give my opinion of all this I will post it on my blog and here.

Again thank you for your help.

"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel

"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel

Well, that was kind of my point

however again I am not so much concerned about
custody battle but her representation and the use of the word "nigger."

Her alleged use of the word was recounted by one person who was called to give testimony against her in the child custody case.

The judge made a decision about whether Boseman would be a good mother or not after hearing this testimony. And the judge, Curmilus, is an African-American. That tells me a couple of possibilities: a) the testimony about the "n" word was an attempt to prejudice the Black judge, b) the judge did not believe the testimony, or c) both of the above.

Think about it.

Words ARE just words.

Words may be just words to some however people have gotten killed over words.

And the reason I raised my son - and I hope that other mothers raise their children in this way is so that in another generation, people are no longer killed over words like "nigger" or "faggot". We have to learn to see the people behind the words, not be afraid to explore why those words are so explosive, and come around to the understanding that no one should be killed for just words.

In fact, I'm of the opinion that no one should be killed for anything. But as always, your mileage may vary.

edited to add:

However words matter and lifesyles does to when it comes to representing others. I have no problem with Senator Boseman lifestyles because I have all kinds of friends and associates and what they do is their business until it affects me on a personally.

Example: John Edwards lifestyle is being looked at in a different way now since the affair. Again that is his personal business but when it affected me personally by asking for my support politically then that's a real problem.

I will continue to follow this because although I can't vote for the Senator she represent me as a Senator in NC.

Oh dammit. I always forget that quote. What is it? "Let he who is sinless...something about stones...or maybe it was something about glass houses... damn. I just can't remember it. You don't have a stake in Julia Boseman's personal life, nor are you really represented by her in the General Assembly. So now I'm trying to decide what your reason for posting this link here was. You don't state your opinion, you just post a link, which takes us to another link, which finally takes us to the article in question.

If you have an opinion, I urge you to share it. If you don't, and you're posting this link just because of the sensational nature of the language, then I'd have to say you might be part of the problem, not the solution.

As I said, your mileage may vary.

Linda if you want to go there let's do it.

Oh dammit. I always forget that quote. What is it? "Let he who is sinless...something about stones...or maybe it was something about glass houses... damn. I just can't remember it. You don't have a stake in Julia Boseman's personal life, nor are you really represented by her in the General Assembly.

(You damn right I don't have a stake in her personally life and as I said I don't have a problem with one's personally life as long as it does not affect me personally.

Oh hell no don't go there, you are a damn lie when it comes to her representing me. As long as she is in the Senate she really represent me because I be damn if my Senator can get a bill passed without the other Senators.

And I be damn if you can speak for who really represents me because I can pick folks to represent me as well. I know how politics work.) TPA

So now I'm trying to decide what your reason for posting this link here was. You don't state your opinion, you just post a link, which takes us to another link, which finally takes us to the article in question.

(When you come anything I post, you have options so don't you forget. I post how I want to post when I want to post so get the hell over it.) TPA

If you have an opinion, I urge you to share it.

(I will share my opinion whenever I want to so don't got there with me.) TPA

If you don't, and you're posting this link just because of the sensational nature of the language, then I'd have to say you might be part of the problem, not the solution.

(Oh hell no, I didnt' make the statement so don't even go there. Typical of some folks because why in the hell are you trying to make the article about me. You see for me it ain't about the article any longer but about you and I. So if you want to go there just bring it on.) TPA

As I said, your mileage may vary.

(As far as my mileage, whatever the hell that mean, I post what I want to post whenver I want to post. I will state my opinion as I see fit. I also have ties to Wilmington and I will share what I want to share when I want to share it.) TPA

"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel

"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel

Yet, at times it's hard to avoid your posts.

When you plaster the site with 7-8 diaries in a row, all containing a one sentence link to your own personal site. I'm all for the BlueNC community and what we represent, but if you're going to advise commenters to avoid your posts if they want, then why not just keep them at your own site? Posting the "truth" about a person, and then backing it up with "Oh, well what the hell it was in the paper," isn't really a fair way to represent someone, is it? I encourage you to engage in all of the discussions that take place here, but merely posting a link to a link of a link of an article is silly. We're already three times removed from hearsay of a senator that doesn't represent you or I. Seems like we're just trying to get a rise out of people, no?

Also, definitely look into the wonderful "block quote" feature when quoting a previous commenter. It helps provide structure and will help your responses make more sense, rather than reading like an Abbot and Costello sketch.

Call me suspicious

But to me there's something inherently suspicious about a post that begins "The truth about . . . [fill in the blank]."

But even if I weren't suspicious when I read the subject title, I'd have been somewhat disgusted by the effort represented. I didn't see any "truth" in there. A statement that Boseman used the "n" word in front of her child doesn't tell me a thing. I don't know context, I don't know intent, I don't know a lot of things except that someone here is trying to exploit her personal problems with an angry ex to derail here via this blog.

I didn't see a thing about issues. I saw no reference to Boseman having placed herself or the Democratic party in the position Edwards did in his election effort, nor did I see any reference to Boseman having denounced anyone for the behavior she is reportedly engaging in (as Edwards did with Clinton). Instead we have just one more malicious attack on her for her personal life instead of her performance in the senate.

I'm so thoroughly sick of that strategy and truly insulted by the idea that Id buy into it. What a bunch of self-important bluster, "The truth about Sen Boseman" my ass.

Bru~

Precisely Bru

The truth about Sen. Boseman is that she's a damn fine lawmaker, who happened to separate from her parenting partner. Custody battles are ugly. Parents should know better.

Suspicious

But to me there's something inherently suspicious about a post that begins "The truth about . . . [fill in the blank]."

(Suspicious? Hell it made the news in the local newspaper in Wilmington so your point?) TPA

But even if I weren't suspicious when I read the subject title, I'd have been somewhat disgusted by the effort represented. I didn't see any "truth" in there. A statement that Boseman used the "n" word in front of her child doesn't tell me a thing.

(Really? Now I am going to play the devil's advocate. That is your opinion and everybody has one. So if that works for you that is fine but I be damn if I think you speak for all.) TPA

I don't know context, I don't know intent, I don't know a lot of things except that someone here is trying to exploit her personal problems with an angry ex to derail here via this blog.

(I didn't write the original article so obviously you have a problem with me. Well let's change the damn article to make it about me and let's go there. This way we can actually get to the bottom of your issue with me. But I would rather that you take it over to my blog.) TPA

I didn't see a thing about issues. I saw no reference to Boseman having placed herself or the Democratic party in the position Edwards did in his election effort, nor did I see any reference to Boseman having denounced anyone for the behavior she is reportedly engaging in (as Edwards did with Clinton).

(Obviously you only read the post in question and didn't read the links to the previous articles in The Wilmington Journal.) TPA

Instead we have just one more malicious attack on her for her personal life instead of her performance in the senate.

(Attack? I can go into the attack mode but how in the hell can you accuse me of attacking her when I didn't give my opinion? Typical of some folks.) TPA

I'm so thoroughly sick of that strategy and truly insulted by the idea that Id buy into it. What a bunch of self-important bluster, "The truth about Sen Boseman" my ass.

(Who asked you to buy into any damn thing? I don't remember addressing the post to you so you had options to read the post and to take it however you like.

You say "the truth about Sen. Boseman" your ass, oh well. It would have been so much easier to just state your case instead of including me on a personal note. When folks post things about people that I support I attempt to make my case however not attacking the person who stated it because the point get lost and the whole article then get taken to another level. Instead of just talking about the article you make it appear that I am the originator of the article. Well hell I didn't make the news that time I just reported it. It is just that news and I don't give a bull manure who like it or not.

But one damn thing about it, I can handle my behind and anytime you want to make it about me, start a separate post and let's do the damn thing. Again like I told Linda let's take it to my blog.) TPA

"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel

"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel