Edwards 4 Obama = NC Swing State?

Why do I believe John's endorsement seals in Obama as NC's choice for president and makes NC a swing state for the first time in a long time?

I supported Edwards initially, donating to his campaign, going to a couple of rallies, meeting him, and volunteering at his national HQ here in Chapel Hill and I'm glad to see Edwards endorsing Obama today.

I'm glad to see this partially because after Edwards dropped out I moved on to volunteering for, donating to, and going to rallies for Obama. I think on a number of issues they have a strong overlap. One important initial overlap was Edwards apologizing for his pro-war vote, Obama being against it from the start, while Hillary was still standing beside her vote and I've seen several more overlaps since.

But the main reason I'm glad to see this is that I think it will help unite the party and put all of NC's democrats into the Obama pool. Don't get me wrong Hillary is a great democrat and major player in the party, but Obama obviously had a lot of support here already to win on May 6th and at his victory speech in Raleigh he said he considered this a swing state that he would campaign in. A lot of the kinds of people who support Hillary should be influenced by John's endorsement and pro-Obama speech.

The primary lasting this long has strengthened our party in my opinion. Interning with the Jim Neal for US Senate campaign for nearly half a year showed me first hand that a lot of new people were registering to vote, and learning how to get involved with campaigns in terms of donating, canvassing, putting up signs, phone banking, and getting into NC's democratic politics in numerous ways. I saw a lot more grassroots activity this year including getting the chance to go to local hang outs and speak to people with Neal such as in this NBC report:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OccKNdnVNVU

I recently asked a political science professor when we were on NPR (WUNC specifically) on The State of Things program and he agreed that the primary was ultimately more constructive than it was divisive for the party:
http://wunc.org/tsot/archive/sot0506a08.mp3

I've even considered running for a local office after the positive experiences I've had this primary season:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=15887256639&ref=ts

Ultimately I feel with this endorsement added in that there is a strong chance that NC will get attention in the general election instead of just the primary which is a good thing in my opinion to have the parties fight for our votes regardless of who you support or which party you support and that we might even have a Blue NC on the national level after this general election.

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Kosh's picture

Short answer: Yes!

North Carolina is in play.

Liberalism as a badge of honor!
No apologies, no excuses.

jakegoad's picture

Show Support 4 Unified Party

Donate here to show the kind of support Edwards & a unified party has: https://donate.barackobama.com/johnedwards

I think Obama will gain alot of foot soldiers as well as funds by Edwards endorsement. I wasn't planning on donating again to Obama's campaign again for a while, but I did tonight, and I imagine I wont be the only one.

He doesn't need Edwards....

For NC to be a swing state. In fact, if I was calling it right now, Obama would win NC anyways.

In fact, judging by his failure to run for re-election to the Senate in 2004 (probably because he would have been in serious trouble of losing) and the fact that Kerry got clobbered in NC with him on the ticket, Edwards might be a liability for Obama in NC.

Just saying....

Robert P.'s picture

Great talking point, wrong, but I expect nothing less.

In the senate race, the Republicans gained the seat formerly held by John Edwards (search). If Edwards had run for reelection against Republican Richard Burr (search), it appears Edwards would have held on to his seat by a 53 percent — 47 percent margin. Seven percent of those voters that would have voted for Edwards voted for Burr.

Edwards was kept out of North Carolina by the Kerry campaign and instead given small venues in Pennsylvania and Ohio. Probably because Kerry was such a poor speaker he didn't want to be shown-up.

I had not seen that poll.

I stand corrected on speculating that the possibility of loss kept him from running. But seriously, you would think that if Edwards was an asset in North Carolina, the race here would have been much closer than it was.

Overall, I don't buy "home state" arguments. We have seen in recent history (Al Gore in 2000, John Edwards in 2004) that states of candidates on the ticket don't necessarily go to that ticket. Either your campaign sells in a state, or it doesn't. As I've said, I think Obama actually has an edge right now, simply because I think his campaign has done a great job here.

And please, could we refrain from the "You're wrong because you disagree with me" line? And why all of the sudden do you have the hardon to go after me? I've been able to engage in dialog with every other poster on here with respect, even cordiality.

Robert P.'s picture

see below, 4 mins before your post.

I actually agree with you on this point, more or less. I do think that Edwards could help pull NC into Obama's camp if he is NOT the VP. If he is, he'll be running all over the place. If carrying NC is his duty in order to become AG, then he can focus and use all his many and vast contacts in NC to turn out the vote for Obama.

Honestly....

I think Edwards could have no role with the campaign, and Obama would still win NC.

And I made my post before I had the opportunity to read your post. The chicken came before the egg that came before the chicken, in other words.

jakegoad's picture

Poverty Czar

"I do think that Edwards could help pull NC into Obama's camp if he is NOT the VP"

There are plenty of spots for Edwards in any democratic administration be it VP or Attorney General or a number of other spots... but I think he's looking for a cabinet level position that addresses poverty.

Robert P.'s picture

˙ƃuıʇsǝɹǝʇuı sı sıɥʇ

Found this via twitter. Now, the flood of upside-down libertarian opinions we've been forced to deal with lately might make sense.

˙sʎɐʍʎuɐ ɔu uıʍ plnoʍ ɐɯɐqo 'ʍou ʇɥƃıɹ ʇı ƃuıllɐɔ sɐʍ ı ɟı 'ʇɔɐɟ uı ˙ǝʇɐʇs ƃuıʍs ɐ ǝq oʇ ɔu ɹoɟ

Yep, much better.

Forced to deal with?

There is nothing forcing anyone to "deal" with anything I've said. If you think so little of me and my opinions, you could just simply ignore them.

BTW, why do my opinions have to be "upside-down" simply because I disagree with you? Why must I be personally attacked for this?

Robert P.'s picture

Okay, maybe I was a little hard on you.

I've gone back and looked and you aren't like some of the others who have been trolling our happy-halls lately. Still, "Johnny Boy" comments will draw my ire every time, as would "Slick Willie" or any other right-wing moniker that is hung on our candidates.

Here's one you might like, then....

King George II?

Oh that's cool, Robert.

That's just cool!

Geek!

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
Pointing at Naked Emperors

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