Forums on Reforming Health Care in North Carolina: Finding Common Ground

There will be a series of forums this Fall that will deal with the health care crisis in North Carolina. As HCfA is a non-partisan outfit, the discussion will be open to anyone with an opinion on how to fix our broken system. The information.

The format will be table discussions to agree on a set of principles. Principles developed at the regional meetings will be sent to our state leadership team and will be a factor in bill writing. The bill H1897 “Health Care Planning Commission” will create a planning commission charged with taking us from our current fragmented system to health care for all. Guiding principles will be included in the bill.

This is an important time for those of you who care about Health Care to become active in Health Care for All NC - Join NOW!

Health care for all is coming. Currently only the health insurance industry is focused, funded and organized to influence change. The purpose of the forums is to allow providers and consumers to agree on principles and build an effective collaborative effort that will balance the strength of the health insurance industry.

Here is the information on the Forums, including dates, times and schedules:

The forums are sponsored by Health Care for All North Carolina, the NC Community Health Center Association, the NC Nurses Association and the NC Pediatric Society. Fall regional forums are:

  • Greensboro, November 3
  • Asheville, November 10
  • Raleigh, November 17.
  • Schedule

    8:30 Registration
    9:00 Opening Comments
    9:30 Table Discussions: Finding Common Ground on Principles
    12:00 Working Lunch (Included in registration fee)

    Summary of Table Discussions

    Closing Comments

    1:00 Optional meeting for those interested in continued involvement in strategic
    and tactical activities.
    2:30 Close of optional meeting

    For more information, contact:
    Bill Brooks
    Co Chair, Communications

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    Robert P.'s picture

    If you care, join.

    Health Care for All NC does not have a "plan", it has a mission, to make sure that every person in North Carolina has Health Care - Health Care for All NC. These meetings are a first step in designing how that will happen. Get involved if you can. Join if you can. Donate if you can (these meetings cost money).

    One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

    Oliver Queen's picture

    No health care for the County

    that generates 60% of NC's tax base? Too bad.

    1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

    Robert P.'s picture

    I don't get what you mean, can you clarify?

    One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

    Oliver Queen's picture

    Mecklenburg County

    I don't know where our local government people get the stat, but they frequently cite some stat that says Meck. Co (due to all of the banks and other business) generates 60-70% of the revenue for the state. I would love to see what the real number is, but I've had trouble finding it. I know we only generate about 16% of local revenues.

    1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

    Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics.

    I'd love to see where they're getting that number. I know Meck is big, but 70% of the revenue for the state? I find that hard to believe. I think they're pulling your chain.



    Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

    Oliver Queen's picture

    Well, they're usually not talking to me

    so they can't pull my chain, but then again, we serve as headquarters to THIS:

    Bank of America (NYSE: BAC TYO: 8648) is the largest commercial bank in the United States in terms of deposits, and the largest company of its kind in the world. It is the largest American company (by market capitalization) that is not part of the Dow Jones Industrial Average. On July 19, 2006, Bank of America reported second quarter 2006 net income of $5.48 billion, surpassing that of Citigroup for the first time.

    1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

    Yeah, I know.

    But that's the net income of one company. It's not their tax return. It doesn't show what write-offs they have, how much actual "revenue" they paid the state.

    My point is - until someone shows you the statistic in context that shows Meck contributing 60 to 70 percent of the revenue to the state, don't accept it. You should know that.



    Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

    Oliver Queen's picture

    As I said, I'd love to see what the real number is.

    1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

    Health Care Fraud in North Carolina

    If you want to play behavioral health care professional, the state of North Carolina is your fantasy camp. Misrepresentation of credentials is so pervasive within this state that I would have to say the problem is a cultural one.

    In my four years as resident of this state, I have encountered quite a number of professionals who exaggerated or manufactured degrees, somehow obtained employment, and somehow managed to retain employment even after the matter was brought to the attention of their employer, for example, one major health and hospital system in Greensboro with an old school mob mentality. We're talking graft, patronage, and just the right amount of shiftlessness when it comes to detecting and mitigating noncompliance with federal law, billing rules, and professional ethics.

    One woman employed as a clinical social worker for this hospital does not hold a license in clinical social work. She did not complete the requirements for licensure and allowed her provisional license to expire, which at this point means that she would have to start over from scratch. According to the North Carolina Social Work Certification and Licensure Board, this individual is prohibited by law from referring to herself as a clinical social worker. The Joint Commission (JCAHO), after a routine evaluation of the facility, reprimanded the hospital's Social Work Department, at which time the employee settled on the obscure and unregulated title of "medical social worker" (anything but plain old social worker). But a few months later, clinical
    social worker worked its way back on her badge, her voicemail, and all hospital support group and panel discussion fliers. A few months after that, the Social Work Board investigated the matter by telephone and informed the concerned critizen complainant that the social worker in question was not responding to their letters. The hospital appears to be doing its best to preserve and disguise the impropriety.

    At the same hospital, a licensed professional counselor (LPC), a master's level license, refers to himself as "doctor" and "psychologist." It has been
    confirmed that this employee's services are being billed out to Blue Cross and Blue Shield at the doctoral level. A few months after some insurance companies were alerted to the possibility of fraud, the hospital, which continued to employ him, removed his name from the web site. Efforts were made to capture previously cached copies of the hospital's web site, but the hospital made some changes to its metafiles, preventing search engine robots/crwlers/spiders from making old copies available.

    At the same hospital, a licensed psychological associate (LPA), also a master's level license, refers to herself as a "licensed health psychologist" on fliers for all panel discussions and support groups in which she advises groups of cancer patients on the issue of coping with chronic illness. The licensed health psychologist title commands the title "doctor" and implies a PhD (doctoral dissertation), thousands of additional hours of supervised practical experience, and more rigorous examination for licensure. This is no
    small distinction, especially when you consider that university programs often give out master's degrees as door prizes to students they withdraw from their
    program because they do not think the student is doctoral material.

    In another city, a substance abuse counselor for decades misrepresented himself by maintaining he received a B.A. from a school he never attended and
    by claiming to have a PhD from an accredited graduate program. The PhD program from which he graduated, which accepts students with no college education is, as you might expect, unaccredited, making him ineligible for licensure at any level. Apparently he also failed to obtain the CCAS he also claims, meaning this man with a PhD, has no professional mental health licenses at all. For
    all this misrepresentation - for years of masquerading as a doctor to an inestimable number of people - he received a letter of reprimand from the
    North Carolina Substance Abuse Professional Practice Board. One wonders how his services are being billed out to insurance companies.

    So, the moral of the story is, if you want to pretend to be a mental health professional, North Carolina is the place for you.

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