Grapes of Wrath indeed
First, apologies to "reasonably honest" for ripping off his/her title idea.
Must be that time of the election season. People are getting antsy about the possible outcomes for candidates who were expected to have easy wins.
The GOP is understandably concerned about Dole's race (as a recent post over at Talking About Politics" reflects) and the Democrats are understandably concerned about Perdue's.
Personally, I think Perdue will win because of the coat-tails of the man she has kept at more than arm's length throughout the campaign. Kind of ironic, but it's probably going to work for her.
Just as people within the Republican Party are trying to figure out where the blame lies for Dole's numbers in the polls, there is lots of finger-pointing going on among Democrats over Perdue. Here at BLUENC, there's a long thread following the post entitled "Those are some mighty sour grapes," by one of our blog hosts, James Protzman.
The point of the post, I think, is to chastise Richard Moore for not doing more to support Perdue. This effort to scold has triggered a still ongoing (though soon to be euthanized, I am guessing) thread with me on one side and several on another about the ethics of choosing NOT to support Perdue in this election.
In other words, for the presumed purpose of advocating for party unity, James started a conversation that has dredged up a lot of mud – and mudslinging – that on one hand I think Perdue's campaign would deem unhelpful to party unity and on the other is probably inspiring giggles from any blog lurkers who work for McCrory.
I don’t think it’s funny when Democrats attack one another. With the primary over, I figured that was over and that's why I haven’t said much about the gubernatorial race since the primary. I have also hoped to become convinced to feel better about our candidate. I have hoped that the race she ran against McCrory would inspire me to become a true supporter. Though that hasn't happened, I've still refrained from renewing or repeating my primary campaign objections. But I’m not known for pulling my punches when someone takes a swing, and am certainly not going to roll over for the suggestion that I don’t care about what happens in this state.
Again, I'm not sure what the swipe at Moore was meant to accomplish. It's late in the race, so I don't think it was contemplated that the scolding would produce sudden supportive zeal from Moore. Maybe it was posted just for the sake of venting the anxiety that so many of us are feeling. I think the stress is showing on most of us in recent posts.
But whatever the purpose, I took it amiss, and still think it was disrespectful not just to Moore but to a lot of other folks in the party who have been longtime activists, longtime loyalists, and are yet uncomfortable speaking supportively on behalf of Perdue. The assumption that the only possible explanation for this reticence is 'sour grapes' is unfair and, as it happens, untrue.
Sometimes scolding people for not speaking up is not a good strategy. It might inspire those who do speak up to say things you don't want to hear.
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Peeling a grape
As we entertain these images of grapes being sour, rotting on the vine and being trod, isn't it kind of obvious that just as there are multiple ways of using a grape (or abusing a grape metaphor) there are a vareity of ways to show your committment to a party, or even to define what motivates you to belong to that party?
stomping grapes
Keep talking grapes and I'm going to uncork me some cabernet. :)
Leigh
http://smuttome.blogspot.com/
Only the most deluded of us could doubt the necessity of this war. - John McCain
You're too fast, Leigh!
Ya replied before I could correct my crummy spelling on "variety." (At least I did delete a much longer rant about what we could and should all be doing with grapes.)
When Democrats Attack
Hi Brunette: As I mentioned recently, I've been back in N.C. a relatively short period of time. I don't have a deep knowledge of statewide issues or these candidates. But I have very much enjoyed the discussion. I don't think attacking each other is wise--but I do greatly appreciate diversity of opinion within the party (and this website) and think it's healthy. I believe we need all kinds of people--both those who put the party above all else, including their personal preferences--and those who work for reform (possibly activists) who will only passionately support their particular Democratic choice. I'm not saying it eloquently but hopefully it makes sense.
Leigh
http://smuttome.blogspot.com/
Only the most deluded of us could doubt the necessity of this war. - John McCain
I appreciate that
very much.
I've never before found myself in the position of being unable to support my party's candidate, and I'm not thrilled by the experience.
But nor am I uncertain about my reasons, or conflicted within my conscience.
Isn't discussions what this site is all about?
Thank you Brunette for posting, discussions are healthy. Repression is what the r's are all about...no?
No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.
Progressive Discussions
And boy is your signature quote apt!
Thanks, Momoaizo!
I appreciate that very much.
Speaking of dissension
Chris Buckley has bucked the National Review, which is interesting, given the fact that his father founded it, but consistent with the example his father set for adherence to principle (not necessarily (*our* principles, but certainly principles that were consistent).
Some of you know that Chris Buckley (author of many humor pieces in the New Yorker, and screenplay for "Thank You for Smoking" etc . . . as well as a recently published novel *Supreme Courtship,*) resigned from the National Review shortly after endorsing Obama. <!--break-->
I would guess that most of BLUENC's readers familiar with the Buckleys and the National Review were pleased to read about this defection and could only cluck tongues at the reaction it provoked from conservatives. Outrage. Anger. Intemperate exclamations!
Kathleen Parker's column in the Washington Post today, which addresses that issue and the discomfort conservatives are experiencing these days is well worth a read. Among other things, she asks,
http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081017/OPINION02/810170315
The right just ain't Right
there's something about education and the lack thereof
No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.
Progressive Discussions
The Right Ain't Right
And that's the truth.
But education isn't the problem with the Buckleys or the readership of the National Review. They ain't stupid, neither.
They just look at the world differently, and, bless their tiny little hearts, they need help.
Chris Buckley's defection signals that they *can* be helped, so we should all feel encouraged.
Of course, my point for bringing up Parker's column on this subject was to note her deploring the intolerance within the ranks of the Rightwing Intelligentsia of dissent from a specific political interpretation of conservatism. (Sorry, that was an awful sentence).
Reminded me of some recent flare ups on this 'yere blog. (cough cough)
You're correct Bru
I was just thinking about the undereducated types that show up at the Palin rallies and all those at the northern end of this county that consistantly vote against themselves. Got off track a little and wasn't thinking of the readership of the National Review. Although, it does seem that they too have chosen to take that low road!
No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.
Progressive Discussions
They are falling apart
From top to bottom, they're falling apart. On one end of the spectrum of political conservatives, you have Chris Buckley going for Obama. McCain can't appeal to the brainy ones; they're might displeased and have been muttering to this effect in increasing volume for several weeks. So who can he aim for?
The mythical Joe Plumber.
Right, so over on the other end of the spectrum, the one Joe-the-Plumber presumably occupies, we don't have the plumber. Instead we have crazy-lady who thinks Obama is an "Arab" symbolizing the ignorance and then over here in NC, the reporter-assaulting moron symbolizing the attitude of the folks McCain has targeting with his pathetic excuse for a campaign.
They're just falling apart. And while none of us minds watching the conservatives self-destruct, it's not a pretty sight. Creepy weirdos -- they make me shudder.