Harry Potter and the Blue Dog Democrats

Crossposted from Left Toon Lane & My Left Wing


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Lycanthropy as defined my Wikipedia:

In folklore, lycanthropy is the ability or power of a human being to undergo transformation into a wolf.

There is no better definition for our conservative democrats than that of lycanthropy. You never know when they will explode into a ball of fur, claws and dimwitted logic in the halls of Congress. They are extremely undependable and definitely against the progressive agenda.

It was also obvious that he full moon was out when the war funding bill passed recently and we also discovered a lot more of the dogs were blue than we previously expected.

Do we do as Harry Potter does, embrace the inner good of the werewolf and help them overcome their issues or should we follow the path of the "all-out" Van Helsing and relegate the blue dogs back to the unemployment line?

P.S. Rep, Shuler, your Philosopher's Stone may be running dry.

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Shuler is in no danger from the Democrats

In fact Shuler had primary opposition in 2006 who used as his campaign that Shuler would be a blue dog and would not vote for every progressive issue. Shuler himself made it clear there were several issues in which he would break with both the party and the progessive cause and he has done what he said he would do. If you are unhappy with Heath it is not becasue you were not warned he would be this way, it is becasue you either did not listen to the warnings or chose to ingore them, either way Heath probably has this seat as long as he wants it so I would get used to it.

Blue South's picture

im sure

Storm Bear was hanging on Shuler's every word, what with working for a candidate in an entirely different district.

Draft Brad Miller-- NC Sen ActBlue

Gordon Smith's picture

Not true, MODERATE

Shuler made clear his social conservatism on issues like abortion, gays, guns, and immigration.

However, he also made clear during his campaign that he would seek an end to the occupation of Iraq.

While I can't imagine a primary challenger who could defeat Shuler, he can not win if Asheville progressives don't come to the polls.

Shuler's poor choice on the Iraq supplemental is something he'll need to change if he expects liberals to believe that he better than the Republican challenger. If there's no difference, then Shuler can and will lose support, and in this district, he'll need every liberal, most of the independents, and a few of the conservatives to win reelection.

Shuler still has time to get on the right track with Iraq. It's simply a question of whether he sees the writing on the wall and chooses to vote for Bush's Strategy or a change.

Do you speak for all the liberals of the 11th

Fist of all no where did I see in this Harry Potter diatribe this issue was about Iraq, but even still Shuler voted with Democrats on some of the Iraqi bills, he just was not going to go to the level of defunding the troops, in the end the vote to fund the troops with out a timeline was voted on by not just Shuler but McIntyre, Etheridge, adn Butterfield which means more of the NC Democrats voted for this bill than against it, also John Murtha voted for it and so did the majortiy leader Steny Hoyer so it is hard to say Shuler went out on his own.

Finally while you may be one of those liberals who do not a difference between Shuler and Charles Taylor, or who ever the GOP puts up, I have full confidence that, A. you do not speak for all liberals and B. most of them do see a Difference between Shuler and Taylor or whoever the GOP puts up.

Gordon Smith's picture

Sassy!

No, Moderate, I certainly don't speak for all liberals, and it's terribly cheeky of you to say so. Sassy.

I didn't suggest Shuler "went out on his own". I suggested that he was giving the impression he would do something about Bush's failed strategy.

You brought Shuler up, not me.

This obviously gets your knickers into a mighty twist, so I'll leave you be. But know that I spend a lot of time with progressives and liberals, and the ones I spend time with are all feeling betrayed.

Robert P.'s picture

Please take the

"...he just was not going to go to the level of defunding the troops..." claptrap over to Red State or some other right-wing blog. There is nothing moderate about using lies.
Republicans did not complete their supplemental bill last time around until some point in July. Were they "defunding the troops"? There was no reason to rush this bill through other than cowardice. They should have passed another bill that fully funded the troops (they did that the first time you do realize) and let Bush CONTINUE to DEFUND the troops by Vetoing them. Congress did its job, passed the legislation, the President failed to fund the troops by vetoing.
Lastly, it would have been nice if Democrats had stood their ground on requiring all troops to have necessary time to rearm after returning home, and it would be nice if they would have required that troops sent to Iraq have all the necessary equipment, not Vietnam-era equipment. But, that's just the LIBERAL in me talking.

One man with courage makes a majority.
- Andrew Jackson

Gordon Smith's picture

Shuler video clip & more

While not explicitly calling for a pullout in this 25-second video clip, Shuler does call for a "plan, a strategy" to stabilize Iraq and get our troops out.

With the generals saying that Iraqi stabilization by military means is no longer feasible, all we're left with is troop redeployment and political/economic/training support.

Shuler had hundreds of MoveOn.org people turn out to support him back in January to celebrate his tough stance against the escalation. Those people have been disillusioned.

Here's a link to Shuler's blog post on Iraq on January 10. And here's a fun excerpt:

"We have watched as the President has sent more and more troops to Iraq, with the same results. The President has asked us to send more of our brave young men and women into harm’s away, against the advice of his generals and the Iraq Study Group. Americans across our nation -- Republican and Democrat -- agree that is unacceptable.”

“I will always stand up for our troops and vote to give them the resources they need. I will also ensure that our brave men and women are not sent into battle without a clear mission. That is not the case now. It is time for a truly new strategy in Iraq – one supported by our military leaders and worthy of the men and women in uniform.”

stormbear's picture

Lordy!

My district, the 5th, is different than the 11th. Think about it like this. I believe Shuler is one of those you can reach with "Harry Potter" stratagems.

Virginia Foxx? Pure Van Helsing.

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Unique's picture

Um - guys? It's a cartoon ...

I refuse to get upset til someone explains just exactly what a Blue Dog is -
Yellow Dog -

One fish
Two fish
Red fish
Blue fish

((??))

Jerimee's picture

I thought Yellow Dog meant

I thought Yellow Dog meant someone who votes for any Democrat, as in, "If he had a (D) next to his name, I'd vote for a yellow dog."

But I'm reading this book that is talking about Gannt's race vs Helms, and the author seems to use the term "Yellow Dog" as synonymous with "old school" Democrats.

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Where Liddy At?
Where is Liddy?
Anyone seen Liddy?

Unique's picture

Okay -

I'm not curious yellow any more. What about blue?

Gordon Smith's picture

Blue Dog Democrats

Unique,

From Wikipedia:

"Blue Dog Democrats are a group of 44 conservative to moderate Democratic Party members of the United States House of Representatives [1]. The Blue Dogs are a coalition of like-minded Democrats whose primary mission is to promote fiscally responsible budget reforms and accountability for taxpayer dollars. Many members hail from conservative-leaning districts, where liberal Democrats and liberal values are a decided minority. Therefore, the Democratic Party has become more supportive of Blue Dog candidates in recent times. This was especially true in the 2006 election, when Blue Dog candidates such as Heath Shuler and Brad Ellsworth were elected in conservative-leaning districts, upending years of Republican dominance in these districts.

The term is a reference to the "Blue Dog" paintings of Cajun artist George Rodrigue of Lafayette, Louisiana; the original members of the coalition would regularly meet in the offices of Louisiana representatives Billy Tauzin and Jimmy Hayes, both of whom had Rodrigue's paintings on their walls (and both of whom later switched to the Republican Party).

The term is also probably meant as an ironic counterpoint to the traditional "Yellow Dog" label, which is applied to Southern Democrats so loyal to the party that they would vote for a yellow dog before voting for a Republican."

stormbear's picture

Got to love Wikipedia!

Unique's picture

Somebody has to represent those conservatives, too

it might as well be a Democrat.

Yellow + Blue = Green

right?

hey, guys?

oh.
Um...maybe it only works that way at my house.

I kind of like that, Unique. :)

Green Dogs? Hmmm. Green something. You might be on to something. I've always considered myself liberal - way liberal. But that doesn't mean I'm for spending money in a wasteful way. No indeed. As a matter of fact, I want it spent responsibly - I just want a lot of it spent, and I don't want corporations treated like individuals. (That's my personal definition in a nutshell.) I don't identify with the "blue dogs", and I don't really respect someone who would vote for someone just because they're a (D), so I don't identify with the yellow dogs either.

Green? Sounds most excellent.

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loftT's picture

Greendogs

is what Progressive Democrats of North Carolina used to call themselves.
I don't know why they dropped it.

I tried to go to their

I tried to go to their meeting at the State Exec. Committee in Jan., but the room was full.In a way it was good to see that many people there calling themselves progressive, but it was a shame that there wasn't enough room for all of us. I tried to listen from the hall, but I really couldn't hear.

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loftT's picture

It was crowded.

I did get in and I was happy to see that those in elected positions really seemed sharp. The criticism that I have though is that there is not enough grassroots up decision making. Again, I think the communication problem is serious and needs fixing soon.

It shouldn't be that hard to communicate now.

We're doing it - right now. Amazing thing, the interweb. It's not perfect, and not everyone has access yet, but it's a start.

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