Last light on Perdue's education positions (3)
What started out as a Saturday-morning experiment turned into a week-long adventure. But I've satisfied my own mind that media coverage during the past several years makes clear Bev Perdue's support for education. Based on what I already knew, I didn't doubt it. But when a television ad came out a couple weeks ago and attacked her as anti-education, and nobody at BlueNC said anything about it, I went looking for facts and figures, and I found a lot of them.
That's how this little bit of research came about. As I said, I meant for this to be split in two, but the second part was still too long, so I clipped it in half. So this will be the last part, at least the last part of this research.
In the second part, I included press coverage from 2003, 2004 and 2005, and little bit of early 2006, and that's where I'll pick up again.
On February 17, the Durham Herald-Sun reported that Perdue was still pushing others to see the benefit of "virtual education," where students could take certain programs over the internet:
An update on the New Schools Project was among innovations and plans heard Thursday by members of the N.C. Education Cabinet. The cabinet, along with an allied consortium, the N.C. Education Governing Boards, met at Duke University. The latter group, an annual gathering of administrators of public schools and public and private colleges and universities, also heard from Gov. Mike Easley on issues involving education funding and the new state lottery.
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Members of the Education Cabinet also heard about the American Diploma Project, a national effort now active in 22 states including North Carolina that seeks to increase high school graduates' readiness for college. Lt. Gov. Beverly Perdue introduced N.C. Virtual, a distance-learning initiative for kindergarten through college. High-speed Internet access "is critical to everyone in North Carolina; I believe that with all my heart," she said.
And on May 3, the Winston-Salem Journal caught Perdue praising the Triad for adapting to a changing economic situation, and still focusing on improvements to education.
They wrote,
Lt. Gov. Beverly Perdue said she likes bragging about what she calls hubs or clusters of excellence in North Carolina, including the Triad. "Whether you realize it or not, you in the Triad have figured out how to grow the economy," Perdue said yesterday to an audience of 330 at the Embassy Suites in downtown Winston-Salem.When textiles, manufacturing and tobacco were at risk and so many jobs were leaving the area, community leaders - men and women - in this area didn't sit back and whine like so many people and communities did across the country, she said. "You, as a region, found good leaders who thought out of the box, and you raised the money on your own," Perdue said.
"You didn't wait for a handout and you began to paint a picture of what the 21st-century economy should look like and you began to grow that cluster right here in the Triad area," Perdue said. "You are really a poster child for how a city should adapt in a global 21st-century economy."
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Perdue said that because education plays a central economic-development role, it is key to success for North Carolina in a changing global environment. She challenged the audience to take 100 ordinary ninth-graders anywhere in North Carolina. "You know what happens to those kids on graduation day four years from now," she said. "Fifty-eight of those 100 kids will graduate," she said. "We lose 42 in four years. They quit school."She said that 38 of those students who graduate go on to college and only 18 of those students will graduate from college. "We can all make a difference in stopping that bleed so that North Carolina can be the most competitive state in the country and the best in the world," she said.
The Kernersville Journal published a similar report of the same event in its May 11 edition, saying,
Although more women than men are graduating from college, women are earning 77 cents on each dollar that men earn, Lt. Gov. Beverly Perdue recently told an audience of businesswomen. She urged attendees to make a difference in the lives of young people by tutoring or mentoring and to keep striving for equal pay for equal work and training."We must demand a strong work ethic from our kids," Perdue said. "We need workers who are sophisticated and educated enough to any job. They must be nimble and quick and not limited to being able to do just one job. Our goal should be to have the most diverse work force in the world."
The same month, Perdue spoke to two graduating classes, one in Fayetteville and one in Raleigh. The Fayetteville Observer included a brief note of Perdue's speech on May 14, 2006:
WHAT SHE SAID: “Lifelong learning is going to be as essential for you as breathing because it's what you're going to have to do to survive in a global economy.”HER HOPES FOR THIS GENERATION: That it finds a cure for cancer, ends racial divisions in the country and puts an end to poverty.
And the News & Observer covered her speech at Meredith College in its May 15 edition:
What she said: If graduates think they can "slow down and take a breath" now that they have earned their degrees, they are mistaken. As Meredith women, they mustn't let up or they will slip backward. Perdue said she hoped the class of 2006 will become known as "The Class" and "The Generation" that changes the world. At the end of life, Perdue said, how many degrees people earned or how much money they made will be unimportant compared to the difference they made in the world. The short list of tasks Perdue gave to the graduates: Bring about world peace, end poverty in America, cure cancer, embrace diversity and take care of our Earth.Memorable quotes: "Meredith has given you a first-rate education . Now you have to go out and make a first-rate difference."
"Well, that was something, wasn't it?" Perdue remarked after Meredith's president, Maureen A. Hartford, conferred upon Perdue an honorary doctorate.
In June, when Perdue spoke to the Downtown Durham Rotary Club, the Durham Herald-Sun said she "praised the region's forward-looking leaders and urged more educational reforms and aggressive economic development."
In its June 27 edition, the Herald-Sun wrote that Perdue again, as always, promoted education:
In the 1940s and '50s, when leaders from Durham were among the proponents of the still-to-be developed RTP, "it was nothing but a dream," Perdue said. "You look at the reality of that dream today" as companies continue to relocate to and expand in Durham.Hard work translated the dream into reality, she said. "It didn't just happen by magic," Perdue said.
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Education goes along with economic development, she said. "Our schools are getting better," said the former schoolteacher. "Nothing makes me angrier than to hear somebody say in front of me, 'Schools in North Carolina are just awful.'"Our schools in this state, regardless of what you read, are some of the fastest-improving in math and reading in America."
An article in Newsweek magazine earlier this month highlighted the state's early college high school program and other innovations in secondary instruction, but teacher pay remains an issue, she said. "Teachers have got to make more than the national average," she said.
Perdue said afterward that North Carolina teacher salaries reached the national average in 2000, her last year as chairwoman of the Senate's Appropriations Committee. Since then, "with the challenges we've had with money, the salaries have slipped. And so the first goal is to get them to the national average. But I continue to say that if we know economic development is synonymous with economic development, you've got to have your best and brightest in those classrooms."
When Perdue was invited to the Rocky Mount Chamber of Commerce's annual Business Expo at Nash Community College in October, 2006, she turned the visit into an opportunity to push the business community to do more for schools.
The Rocky Mount Telegram reported on October 11, in an article called "Perdue rightly stresses education,"
Lt. Gov. Beverly Perdue came to Nash Community College Tuesday to salute the Twin Counties' efforts to improve Eastern North Carolina's economic picture. Then, after a pause, she encouraged leaders at the Rocky Mount Chamber of Commerce's annual Business Expo to do more. Perdue hit some of the highlights of the past year — most notably the recruitment of Spring Hope Biofuels, a plant that will soon make ethanol from crops commonly grown in Eastern North Carolina.But she also put a bright spotlight on educational shortcomings in the state. Perdue is the daughter of a coal miner and housewife, neither of whom ever graduated from high school. That's not an unusual background. In fact, Perdue noted that of every 100 students in ninth grade today, slightly more than half — 58 — will graduate from high school. That means that 42 percent of the kids who make it to ninth grade fail to leave school with a diploma. That's not just in the Twin Counties, Perdue noted. That's in all of North Carolina.
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Economic development starts with education . It can go only as far as the talented students in our schools take themselves. Pushing them to their full potential is a job for all of us, and the rewards will benefit all of us. Plenty of folks knew that before Bev Perdue came to see us this week. But the lieutenant governor framed the message in an unmistakable way. Let's hope some folks were paying attention.
A week later, the Laurinburg Exchange reported that the state had finally launched a "virtual school," the program that Perdue had long promoted on the State Board of Education, that would give new education access to students in rural areas of the state:
North Carolina launched a virtual public school Wednesday that allows students to take classes online.Lt. Gov. Bev Perdue said the program would give students opportunities to advance their education by offering courses that may not be available in some local schools. Online classes would supplement students' regular in-school courses. The classes are available free of charge. "This is another step to insuring that students have access to high quality courses and learning regardless of their zip code," Perdue said.
The new year found Perdue back in Charlotte, studying a "mini high-school" program at Garinger High School.
The Charlotte Observer reported on February 18, 2007,
Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools officials used a visit by the state's No. 2 elected official Thursday to lobby for more money and patience as they try to reform one of the system's low-performing high schools. Lt. Gov. Beverly Perdue , in Charlotte for a series of meetings with local officials, visited Garinger High School so she could see how CMS officials are faring in their effort to improve student performance by creating mini high schools."This is impressive," Perdue said, after visiting classes in the New Technology and International Studies high schools at Garinger. "I've been following this school for three years. It's exciting to see how this place is coming alive."
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When she had finished watching International Studies students in a Chinese language class and New Technology students use computers to design artwork, Perdue caught a sales pitch from CMS officials. Ann Clark, assistant superintendent of high schools, asked for more time to improve student performance. "We have a long way to go," Clark said. "We all know that. But we're on our way. A lot of good things are happening."Barry Blair, principal of the New Technology High School, and his International Studies counterpart, Natasha Thompson, reminded Perdue that state money for equipment and other resources is badly needed. Watching students work with laptop computers, Perdue said, "The goal for us is for the kids to be able to take the laptops home, to make sure all students have access to technology."
And almost a year to-the-day later, she was in Sampson County, still promoting easy access to education. The Sampson Independent wrote on February 16,
She said that during her tenure as lieutenant governor, she has put a focus on leading the state in health and wellness. In fact, she said she is hoping to set out to make sure that every child in the state has health insurance.As lieutenant governor, Perdue said she has been honored to hold the post for many reasons, the most important of which is the opportunity it has afforded her to listen to the concerns of citizens across the state. What some may not know about Perdue is that niether of her parents had a high school education. Thus, from her humble beginnings, her parents instilled in her the need to get an adequate education.
She listened to her parents, set her goals and worked toward them, a determination that led her through the educational realm, where she received a docotorate in education. Her father, she said, drilled it into her heart and her mind that education was the key to her success. "I was blessed to have them as my parents," said Perdue.
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[Perdue's ongoing goals include] ensuring that North Carolina is globally competitive. "We need to help our folks become the best educated workers out there by nurturing the skills and ideas to have it happen," said Perdue.
That seems to have been Perdue's message for the past many years, hasn't it? No matter where she's gone -- Asheville, Pactolus, Kernersville, Laurinburg, Fayetteville, Charlotte, Greenville, New Bern, Chapel Hill, Raleigh, Elizabeth City, Greensboro -- and every else in between?
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blech!
I can only say that it makes me sick to my stomach that Beverly Perdue could wind up being governor.
She's totally in thrall to the good ole boys we know as Basnight, Rand and Hoyle. She's going to be beholden to them throughout her term(s) and for that and other reasons is a big drag on this state's chances of becoming progressive in any meaningful sense.
It's almost hard to be mad at her because one gets the sense that she doesn't have the wherewithal to be evil -- just plain banal.
But banal is bad enough.
I wish I could offer vigorous and positive advocacy for Moore as a counter, but instead, this winds up being yet another race in NC in which I have to settle for the possibility that because Moore isn't "in" with her crowd (never has been), he might offer a chance for change.
No one likes the concept of "beltline" politics, but those of us who have lived here a long time and been watching Perdue closely know damned well that she's no agent for progress.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke
So much for your high-flying rhetoric about
Democrats fighting one another.
it wasn't rhetoric
(And it wasn't what I'd call "high flyin'," which I think implies a certain level of eloquence in addition to loftiness of purpose.)
I won't be protesting or otherwise campaigning against her or any other democrat. Nor do I think that the attention thus far focused on the Moore and Perdue contest comes close to doing the kind of damage that I and others are concerned is being done to the democrats because of the Clinton and Obama contest.
Maybe you could mull that over for a little bit while asking yourself what other problems you need to examine in your knee jerk reactions to my posts.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke
Mulling
I get your point, and I wish you'd take time, at least once in awhile, to get mine. Here's what you wrote:
No, you're not out protesting a candidate the way the original poster suggested, and I appreciate that. But after being gone from BlueNC for a few days, when I reread the threads here that interest me, yours is the only comment out of four or five hundred that slams one of our gubernatorial candidates. And it goes negative in a way that is, simply put, toxic. You're absolutely right, by the way, about the fact that you shouldn't have said anything in the first place unless you are willing to back it up.
I am one of those who believe the Obama-Clinton fight is already working in McCain's favor. I feel the same way about the Moore-Perdue campaign. And frankly, I would rather not have any of these candidates finding themselves having to explain why he or she makes a strong Democratic party activist sick to her stomach.
So yeah. I'm mulling things over. I sure as hell hope you are too.
Yes, I am
I'm mulling whether or not my presence on this blog is a greater problem to you than it is worth to the blog in terms of whatever contribution I might be said to make.
So what if I'm the only one of the participants who slammed a democratic gubernatorial candidate? What is wrong with that?
Yes, I did admit that I shouldn't have slammed her without offering what I know that causes me to regard her with distaste. But since I did acknowledge that, I can't help wondering whether your problem is purely with that issue as opposed to something more personal in relation to yourself -- such as your fairly well self-documented problem with me as a poster.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke
Your presence is not a problem for me
Most of the time I enjoy what you write. Sometimes I don't.
Your recent comments about a candidate I admire fall into the latter category. If anyone else had made such comments, I would have responded much more harshly than I did with you.
J
PS I appreciated your comments on the Hillary thread (where you called for the poster not to participate in fighting against Democrats). That's what made your comments about Perdue so unsettling.
Must you always "enjoy" a comment to think it worthwhile?
I don't mind a harsh response. I welcome a harsh response, as long as I can respect the intellectual force it carries. That's not what I'm getting from your responses.
Again, I admitted that my commenting on a candidate without offering more substantive objections than I'm in a position to offer is unfair and beneath my own standards for evaluating others' statements.
For you to tell me that your remarks would have been "harsher" under other circumstances don't impress me none. It isn't as though your remarks carried such force of reason that I felt they warranted response on the level of reasoned debate.
That is why my question was and remains whether your personal issues with me are such that my presence on *your* blog is more trouble than it is worth in terms of my contribution.
Perhap the reason you felt discomfort at my remarks about Perdue isn't so much that a person on this blog was bitchin' about her but rather that you have your own reasons to doubt her desirability as a "progressive" candidate.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke
Shrinking
I used to have to pay good money for getting psycho-analyzed ... not sure what to do with all this free advice. (By the way, I have never claimed or asserted that Perdue is a progressive candidate. Never. I have said I prefer Perdue to Moore, which I do.)
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This is not my blog. Every person every day makes his or her own decision whether their participation is more trouble than it's worth. Most days I feel pretty good about the time I'm investing. Today? Not so much.
It's getting to the point that it almost, sorta, kinda
maybe seems like you're intentionally baiting James.
I don't recall reading that James ever called this *his* blog in a comment to you, so this comment seems a bit out of line. As far as wondering about your presence on this blog......nobody will ask you to leave, but nobody will beg you to stay, either. That is your choice.
In the future when you offer a somewhat harsh opinion of someone you should come prepared to back it up. If you aren't prepared to back it up you shouldn't be surprised when someone challenges you. As far as I can tell James doesn't have personal issues with you. He has issues with you making claims about Bev Perdue that you aren't prepared to back up.
In the future
when you decide to chastize me for a comment, please do read just a bit further to see whether I've already offered regrets for the comment. It's far from necessary for you to lecture me on the appropriateness of a comment I've already admitted I shouldn't have made.
No, I wasn't surprised by being challenged for having said something that I had already acknowledged was out of line. I was, however, wondering why the extra bites were being administered and, given the history here was wondering if this now par for the course.
I didn't make the point about my participation to solicit encouragement to stay (I hate seeing that on any blog), but post after post accusing me of targeting James has gotten really, really old. I've already answered that accusation and shouldn't have to repeat it every time something I say doesn't sit well with someone who has made clear in post after post that he does, in fact, have a problem with me. I'd have to be blind and a lot slower faculty-wise than I am not to wonder whether every time there's a disagreement this sh*t reemerges.
Since James is a host (and no he never categorically stated it was *his* but the impression isn't invalid, as I think you realize), and since said host has made numerous remarks to me that contained personal insult, questioning of my motives, sarcastic accusations (e.g. my "friends," the lobbyists for Womble Carlysle), my "wisdom," "judgment," etc . . . my question about whether I ought to continue to contribute or whether my contributions are unwelcome was a real one, and didn't rate the implicit sarcasm of your "no one is going to beg you to stay."
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke
This thread followed 8 years of educational drive
by one political figure.
She has been working hard toward making our educational system work. If nothing else, she understands the value of an education and will attempt to provide our kids an opportunity to succeed.
I do not have kids and I do not attend a collage. So I cannot comment on the effectiveness of her in these 8 years to improve the education.
I cannot comment on a statement of has she improved our states educational system or is she a "pie in the sky" talker.
I have not seen any of the aids or for that matter, any state wide aids for any politician so I do not know of the negative aids anyone may speak of.
I see a lot of work in main's work.
I will not approach a political persons value based on the people she talks with.
Banal = lacking originality, freshness, or novelty
In many of the stories linked, it showed were she was trying to inspire hope in the graduating class. How the school system they attended made a difference. She speaks of positives in the realm of education. I think she was not banal in those discussions. It is refreshing to hear people bringing a positive message to the youth or young adults.
Ms. Perdue is under a Gov who has directed the US Navy not to talk with North Carolinians. Who desires to be in charge and is impossible to talk with. Under those constraints, it would be difficult for her to do anything outside of what Mikey dictates if he did not want her to.
She sounds like a woman of integrity, so she is supporting her governor in the direction he has envisioned for the State.
We cannot have constant bickering at the senior levels and expect to get anything done. So working with the good ole boys is the playing field she is in.
So has she improved our states educational system since 2000? If not, is it because of her, or because the GA will not support her?
What legislations has she championed that indicates support solely because of the good ole boy network?
To date, I am not impressed with her role in standing along side the folks of NE North Carolina, but then I have not been targeting her with many of my comments. The one response she gave me to my only question to her was under the umbrella of Easley's mandate to keep the people of NE NC ignorant of the new sites. She either was ignorant of the OLF or was under a constraint to keep quite. Not sure which.
She is many things all right-
But no, she is not a person of integrity.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke
While I value your opinion
I do not see substantive examples to show she has no integrity.
As Lt. Gov. were has she purposely or wantingly failed the people?
Mikey has proven he does not care for the People of North Carolina by encouraging the Navy not to discuss the choices he was deliberating on an OLF. He will say he supports any community that does not wish this OLF, but he will not help them or request of the Navy to take a site off of a list for a study that has not started.
Mikey deliberately refused to tell the six communities that he was making available to the Navy there community until after the dead line the Navy imposed before they had to move forward with their process.
Mikey makes it impossible for the people to talk to him about issues that effect our state. Only big money or lobbyists I think can get mikeys ear. Little people are for stepping on.
Those are examples of lack of integrity or failing to support the people who elected him. Has Perdue done anything like that?
I am not endorsing Perdue. I really do not know a thing about her. So I am looking for comments both pro and con about her.
But I know nothing of the other guy running or of Smith.
Once I see the answers to this set of blog questions on Monday, I hope to have a better idea of were they stand.
no can do
Parmea,
Thank you for your response, which was reasonable and deserves a better answer than I can give.
No, I can't talk about what I know, and for that reason shouldn't have said anything.
I do appreciate that people like yourself look closely yet with open minds (and hearts) to select candidates, and I realize that comments such as I've made here do nothing to contribute to a thoughtful person's ability to weigh factors of interest.
Sometimes being given lots of access to "inside" is heady and exciting; it is certainly always interesting. But in some cases there comes a time when it is terribly demoralizing.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke
Thanks for reading, Parmea.
Wading through these articles for a week, I found a lot of the same things you found, the commitment to education, looking for good ideas that are working, and the pattern of encouraging students and others to do better.
What occurred to me is that all of those things are the responsibility of the superintendent of public instruction, surely. The fact that the lieutenant governor took on education as a major theme throughout her terms has to say something about Bev Perdue personally.
What it says to me, I think, sufficiently refutes what was said about her in a negative television attack ad.
Perdue
bradford
Thanks for the enlightening compilation of Bev's pro-education credentials. I have known her for 20 years and have followed her steady rise and talked to her countless times, although only a few times in the past five or six years. She is truly passionate about education, always has been, and is equally passionate about care for our seniors. She's also as approachable, as down-to-earth, as any North Carolina politician I've ever known, for whatever that's worth.
While it's true that she has always been closely linked to Basnight and others in the "good old boy" club, she and these good old boys have also done a tremendous amount of good for Eastern North Carolina. One can criticize them for bringing home pork, but one person's pork is another's essential project. Museums, festivals, roads, bridges mean jobs and money in an area that once thrived on commercial fishing (the coast)and farming (coastal plain) but now depends inordinately on low-paying seasonal tourism jobs and the military. The latter is the one thing that bothers me a little about Bev; but given the economic importance of the bases to the towns that surround them, I certainly understand her enthusiastic efforts. In peacetime, in the absence of a horribly stupid war, support for those bases and jobs looks different.
Eastern North Carolina is wholly different from the rest of the state, and in my opinion, there is nothing wrong with fighting for economic improvement in one's home region. I know little of Moore except his ads. I actually think either one of them would probably make a fine governor, although neither is nearly as liberal and progressive as I'd like.
Either would almost certainly be better than ME, who, in my opinion, has done little but occupy space, albeit thankfully, because that space that otherwise would have been occupied by a Republican who would have done at least some harm than ME has done by doing not much.
Me, I personally am as excited about the Lt. Gov. race as I am about anything now. Talk about wonderful candidates! I honestly love Besse, Dellinger and Smathers.
Like so many others here, though, I simply can't wait for our primary to be over so we can start working together. We truly have great opportunities to improve things this year, although surely not in the giant steps we might like. I just hope we can all - Obama, Edwards, Clinton, Perdue, Moore, Dellinger, Besse, Smathers backers - come together in rapid order in early May and work hard and happily. We have way too much to lose; although we don't know how good our various candidates would be, we know how bad the other party would be.
Thanks for this post.
With regard to her record, it seems clear that she cares about education and that she cares about kids insurance. I don't have any doubts about that.
As to the problem with access, I really think you would have a hard time liking many politicians if you were given inside access to their decision-making. There are a couple really good people, but let's face it, most people in power have made choices for all the wrong reasons.
Someone wrote me a !!!!!! message the other day because I said I was still undecided about this race, but I think Brunette makes a point that I feel myself - half a dozen of one, 6 of the other. Would you rather have North Carolina insiders or Wall Street Insiders?
Currently, for reasons I hope to write about soon, if I can find someone with courage, I am sick to death of North Carolina power brokers.
One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon