NC Sen: It's Lieberman vs. Lamont, Part I.
In the race to replace Elizabeth Dole (R-Kansas D.C.-NC)The North Carolina Senate race pits an entrenched corporate Democrat who is right about some of the things some of the times versus a Progressive, outsider Democrat running on grassroots/netroots support who is right on the issues. An inspirational, progressive, well-spoken, outsider with a proven record of raising funds for other Democrats steps up to the plate - Jim Neal. Jim Neal is the outsider who is relying on our support because he won't get it from the DSCC. During a live-blog at BlueNC Jim is asked whether he is gay and responds that he is; Jim's phone calls no longer get answered, the DSCC doesn't include him on their North Carolina Senate news feed; and, they recruit Kay Hagan to run for the seat.
Who is Kay Hagan?
Originally posted at the Great Orange Satan.
The backstory on Jim Neal can be summed up thusly: North Carolina Democrats cannot find a candidate to run against Elizabeth Dole, many reject the idea including Senator Kay Hagan.
But, suddenly, after it comes out that Jim Neal has, well, comeout - she is suddenly ready to go. Bad enough? Well, now Kay Hagan is using the corporate money she has been collecting to not only try and buy this race with misleading television advertising, but with blogads. More on that later.
So, who is Kay Hagan?
Hagan was recruited to run for the state Senate in 1998 by Basnight and then-Gov. Jim Hunt, who were looking to strengthen the Democrats’ perilous control of the Senate...Basnight would be a mentor to Hagan, helping make her one of three leaders of the Senate Appropriations Committee, which assembles the state’s budget.
How does the Democratic Senate Appropriations Committee go about its business?
The Senate has been meeting behind closed doors working on their budget. Indications are that the initial budget is worse than the House budget. This is due to the Senate's leadership decision to let the 1/2 cent sales tax sunset. We anticipate that this will be next week. At that time, we will ask you to respond with calls to the Senate.
In the shadows. They hide behind closed doors and write budgets that go against the very fabric of the Democratic Party. That budget is then passed unanimously in nearly every case. My own Senator, the "liberal" Ellie Kinnaird, used to stand up to these budgets, but now even her voice has been muffled behind those closed doors. Thankfully, for the people of North Carolina, the House has a more open budget process that results in Progressive budgets each year.
The $17 billion Senate budget, which Gov. Mike Easley has called "mean" because of cuts to Medicaid and other programs that total $570 million, is now in the laps of lawmakers in the House. "It will be voted down," state Rep. Dewey Hill said of the Senate proposal, "but that's the way it always works."
Thus, they pull the right-leaning Senate more towards the middle. What kind of budgets has Kay Hagan written behind those closed doors? This kind:
“Medicaid is what's driving the budget and we've got to control it.” -- Senator Kay Hagan, D-Guilford.
“CONTROLLING COSTS” IS CODE FOR CUTTING THE POOR, ELDERLY, DISABLED: It’s always easy to talk about cutting Medicaid in the abstract but when it comes to actually deciding which people to cut, the human cost behind the slick sound bites becomes apparent. Last week, the NC Senate cut Medicaid health coverage for the “Aged, Blind, and Disabled” category of people in poverty. This saves the state $53 million in 2005-06 and $115 million in 2006-07 while hurting thousands of our poorest and most vulnerable residents
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8,000 WILL LOSE ALL HEALTH CARE: Blind or disabled residents who are on Medicaid but have not yet gotten on Medicare will be the worst hit. While many folks will have applied for Social Security disability and Medicare, the minimum waiting time for Medicare health coverage is almost two and a half years (29 months) from the time someone becomes disabled. In North Carolina we don’t wait years for federal government action before we take care of our poorest and most vulnerable residents. We make a commitment to all our blind and disabled residents living in poverty that they can at least get Medicaid health coverage as they wait for the federal government’s slow decisions and actions.
While at the same time, guess what else they proposed? You won't believe it, I mean, you really won't believe it.
Acting with surprising speed, senators fashioned a budget and tax package that consists of large and painful spending cuts in human services and criminal justice, large and startlingly generous tax cuts for wealthy households and corporations, and large and regressive tax hikes on people of modest means. In a state already grappling with the effects of a prolonged economic slump, falling wages for average workers and a chronic budget crisis, the Senate’s action struck many as the equivalent of drawing blood from an anemic patient.
Those are the priorities of Kay Hagan, profits over people. Is that who we want representing the people of North Carolina and the United States of America? I don't think so, I think we want a Progressive Candidate like Jim Neal. This is what Jim Neal had to say over at Americablog when he was endorsed by them.
I've realized that there are just too many bad things to say about Kay Hagan to limit them to just one blog.
In Part II, I will focus on her first television ad, which was bought and paid for by large dollar donations drummed up by the DSCC. In it she boasts that she fought for the minimum wage, but nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, she supported a version of the minimum wage that came from......are you ready for this?????......she supported a regressive version of the minimum wage proposed by Elizabeth-freakin'-Dole.
In Part III, we'll talk about Kay Hagan on FISA (she supports telecom immunity) and the Iraq war (she opposes a timetable for withdrawal).
Tune in on Monday to find out more, but in the meantime, support the right candidate by supporting Ten for Jim - Pocket Change for Positive Change. Jim needs us to support him, so that he can represent us.

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The more you look into Senator Hagan's record...
the more you realize why she won't defend it in front of North Carolina Democrats.
Speaking of the Great Orange Satan...
...There are a ton of reasons to vote FOR jim neal. Why cant we talk about those?
"Keep the Faith"
It would be great if we could talk about those.....
maybe on a stage, both candidates, facing each other, having to defend their positions. We could call it ---- "a debate".
Hagan plans on winning by ducking the voters and not facing up to her record. By playing misleading ads during American Idol.
I plan on pointing out the reality of her position.
Does Hagan even want this?
You're right on the money with Jim. You can tell he wants to win-- he's going to every country in North Carolina meeting with voters. This contrasts with Hagan, who seems to think a campaign consists of a few TV commercials.
You know,
Last night, I was cleaning up my desk (you know it's bad when I do that!) and I found my notes from the SEC. I wrote about Kay Hagan's speech "doesn't act like she wants this".
Weird. Maybe she doesn't.
Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
Pointing at Naked Emperors
Uh oh.
I greatly fear the day you stumble across your notes from the mental health forum we attended. :]
I saved those in a special place.
just in case I need them.
Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
Pointing at Naked Emperors
Sorry, bu tthis is currnetly a sore point with me atm
I have a post on this right now.
No he's not. He had a chance to come to Person County in March and backed out. I will say that it was a decent enough reason, but he hasn't come to Person County and, to my knowledge, has no plans to.
Person County Democrats
We've been planning on going to the Dinner on the 22nd
ever since we got the postcard in early April.
Some of my friends got together and started a blog about technology and change. IT is pretty good.
Great!! Just would have been nice if there had been a
little rsvp type of action. We had an exec. comm. meeting this past Thursday and nobody mentioned Neal attending, not even the chair who is listed as the contact person. No worries though.
This is good. Thank you.
Person County Democrats
Help me out here, Robert
Is Jim Neal Lieberman or Lamont in this scenario?
If he's Lamont, then he's the Party's choice and subsequent loser of the election (that can't be right).
If he's Lieberman, he's a turncoat jackass with his nose up McCain's butt (that can't be right).
I'm so confused! ;o
Just kidding. I know what you were working towards.
Lieberman vs. Lamont
I take "Lieberman vs. Lamont" to parallel "Hagen vs Neal". I think it's a very good analogy.
BTW, what happened in that election in CT?
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Lamont lost
It was ugly. He went on vacation after winning in the primary....a long vacation.
A question...
I'll open this by admitting that I'm not really for or against either candidate. But in the case of Jim Neal, why start with the US Senate? Why not start in the state legislature, get some cred in the political system and then go after Dole in 2014 if Democrats are unsuccessful this year?
Well, I'm sure some folks were saying the same thing about
John Edwards. Normally, I would agree with you. Jim Neal might not have paid his dues politically, but I think he's paid his dues.
Remember, when Jim announced he was running?
All others had chickened out. Even after we pleaded with them to go up against Dole, we cajoled, we coaxed, we promised to work hard for them. None of them had the cojones.
Out of the blue, a dark horse! Someone with courage, forthright, smart and determined. Can you blame us for embracing someone with those qualities? He's the antithesis of Liddy.
Progressive Democrats of North Carolina
You forgot one.....
We begged. We got down on our knees and we begged.
Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.
I even sent Grier an e-mail
that ended with me giving him some sort of military-ish command, like, "Time to go to work, Major!"
Of course, the fact that I only made it to sergeant might have taken some of the "zing" out of that demand. ;/
Why Neal shouldn't START in the state legislature.
Someone might fairly have asked John Edwards in 1998 why he hadn't started with some other elective office: mayor, state house, city council or state senate. We might fairly ask that question of Hampton Dellinger today. I don't remember the order in which Edwards' senate primary opponents entered the race to defeat Lauch Faircloth. While my political recollection is good, it doesn't tell me what experience each of them had. The point in that race was that we needed somebody to defeat Faircloth. He did.
'Why didn't you start smaller?' is always a fair question when somebody starts higher in the scale. It's especially fair when someone runs for statewide office in their first election as a candidate.
For Jim Neal, the answer is in agonizingly recent state political history. We didn't have a candidate to oppose Liddy Dole, much less a primary, on October first 2007.
Jim Neal stepped up to the plate.
If he hadn't, we might have waited until filing opened.
Nobody was going to beat Dole like that.
No, Neal hasn't been elected yet, but even if he never does anything else, he has already earned the credit for starting the race against Dole when nobody else was ready to do it.
Let's be honest here....
We wouldn't be having this conversation if Jim weren't gay.
Can you believe that? Could you believe me saying "We wouldn't be having this conversation if Jim weren't black?"
I'm ashamed of my party that they turned their back on an excellent candidate because of sexual orientation. Imagine the strength Jim Neal would be approaching the general election with if the DSCC and North Carolina Democrats had simply gotten behind him and stood up for him, instead of slinking away.
In a way, it does make him different...
Otherwise he would be the former NC guy coming from out-of-state who made a lot of money and is now running for Senate.
...oh wait, that guy ran and lost in 2002 and 2004, didn't he?
~sigh~
PS Obviously Bowles is doing great things now, but my point is he didn't win, so why try the same thing a third time?
It is unfortunate...
But I don't think a gay man can win a statewide election in North Carolina - not yet at least.
It pains me to say that...But Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will a progressive majority in Congress, including a gay Senator from North Carolina.
Aside from the likelihood
that Kay Hagan (re)entered the race because Jim is gay (either she was prodded or she figured he'd be easy to beat), I have yet to see any evidence that his orientation matters at all.
He is currently running neck and neck with an established and influential State Senator with a network of support and more money; he has an incredible amount of energy and determination; he has a "presence" that I can only describe as compelling and magnetic, which has already helped him to recruit a dynamic staff of volunteers (you should have seen them in action today-marvelous); his public speaking skills have gone from pretty good to excellent, and he's running in a state where Democrats are registering to vote in record numbers.
Oh yeah, he can definitely win this election.
But I don't think a black
Why is it that good Democrats in North Carolina, who would never utter this, are more than willing to utter what you did?
Gay is the new Black
Thank you, Civil Rights Movement, for showing that Americans are good for the best efforts: defying conventional wisdom and appealing to our better angels--even when it seems too soon.
Good candidates who happen to be openly gay
...are just fine.
It defies logic to think there is an anti-gay, anti-Neal undercurrent from some group (party leadership, other elected officials who will share the ballot, etc.).
Let's look at the Court of Appeals filings - they are statewide ballots.
The fact that Judge John Arrowood has only one opponent IN A STATEWIDE RACE should be all the evidence needed. There is a four way race for Judge Tyson's seat in a statewide race. Any one of those running for the Tyson seat could have easily chosen to run for Arrowood's seat, but they didn't. No cabal of party leaders had some candidate file for Arrowood's seat. This well-qualified candidate who happens to be openly gay faces only one opponent in the November election.
However, people see what they want to see. Worse, the use of sexual orientation as a wedge issue has occurred in a statewide Democratic primary *by LGBT supporters*-- to supposedly help the LGBT cause?
The fact is a Neal candidacy takes the "out-of-state Liddy" issue off the table for the fall. Neal returned to the state even later than Liddy did.
Neal is a great candidate for some other race. He's just not right for this race. And it is not because of sexual orientation.
There's a huge difference
There's a huge difference between Neal and Dole. She used her mother's house as her residence long enough to qualify and get elected. Since then, she's rarely been seen in the state.
Neal, on the hand, moved his family to North Carolina and started a business here. If I remember correctly, his son is a student at UNC. He didn't decide to run until Brad Miller decided not to.
If Kay Hagan tries to make an issue of this, she's just going to irritate all the voters who haven't lived in the state their entire lives. I moved into her district in May 2004. Using this definition, I probably shouldn't have voted for her in 2004 or 2006.
The Closed Door Myth
Every citizen of North Carolina is welcome in the appropriations meetings. I have no idea where this myth is getting perpetrated from, but it is nothing more than pure unadulterated bullshit. I have sat in on those meeting myself.
Cool! I didn't know that.
If I lived closer I would certainly sit in on some. I'm sure day-to-day it is as exciting as watching paint dry......maybe even less exciting....but I would do it just to see what happens.
Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.