Recapping the Preferences for the Lt. Governor's Race

Awhile back, I asked the question "WHOM do you support for Lt. Governor, and why?". As I thought, the answers were split between those who hadn't thought that much about it and those who already had a dog in the race. In the interest of continuing my education on this race, I thought I would recap why people are supporting the various candidates. The who's and why's after the break.

First things first, the only person supporting Dalton is The Moderate, whom I respect from discussion long ago at MyDD, but who seems on his own here in supporting Dalton. Sorry, Charlie : )

Now, this time I am going to do the names in reverse-alphabetical order, just to show no bias. Here are the candidates and the Who's and Why's.

Pat Smathers

Blue South

...an indication of what I think is that I started writing a response and its up to about 500 words.

I will just say that I support Pat Smathers because of him, his family, his message, his record and his ideas. I like Dan Besse, and I hope he ends up getting a bigger voice at some point in this state.

Drama Queen
Pat Smathers and Dan Besse are progressive enough for me. And Pat has amazing ideas. Go see him if you get the chance. He'll convince you. He's definitely someone we need to be utilizing at the state level. And he and his family are the real deal. He's not going to scare any good ole boys but he's nothing like them, either.

Besse is great, too, but a harder sell to swing voters.

Sam Spencer
We need advocates for smaller towns and communities that get ignored in the legislative process. We need people who understand local government. We need people who want to be Lt. Gov., not AG or Governor. We need a leader who will do something productive with the office. We need balance with the Governor. We need a progressive. We need someone with a record; real, elected leadership experience or progressive credentials. Smathers and Besse are the only candidates in this race I could vote for.

Leslie H
Smathers, no doubt. Love his stated philosophy of bringing ideas for fixes, tweaks and improvements up from the people who know their local communities best.

The actions and inactions of local governments, (commissioners, boards and councils), affects HOW we all live our daily lives in very real pragmatic ways. It affects everything -- where things are built, how they're built, where kids go to school and who teaches them when they get there, how we get to work and what sort of jobs are available, where our water comes from and how much impact our sewer systems have on the environment, how much we pay the tax man and what we and others in our communities get in return for our investments.

I'd love to have someone in Raleigh who has lived that reality and feels it in his soul.

lcloud
I've met Besse, Dalton, Dellinger, and Smathers. The only two I am supporting are Besse and Smathers, and I really don't know how I will vote yet.

Hamp Dellinger

BlueRidge
...Hampton is the kind of candidate for forward-looking voters who truly believe that in North Carolina we can always do better. He brings a fresh perspective amplified by his broad professional experience. He is already working to create a better North Carolina. Hampton has been an active voice on education, the environment, and improving the welfare of seniors.

I had been impressed with Hampton’s ability to connect with young voters, and he has really built a reputation for valuing the input of college Democrats and young professionals. (I'm a graduate student myself.) But at the campaign event, I realized that it’s not just young people that he has that kind of relationship with. His supporters looked like North Carolina. There were young people and seniors, women and men, rural and urban community leaders from around the state, and people of diverse ethnicities. And they aren’t just on the sidelines – Hampton has created a grassroots campaign that engages the broad cross-section of North Carolinians.

DrFrankLives
..The LG is now essentially the minister without portfolio of the Council of State. The job is essentially what you make of it, and I can think of no person with recent governmental experience that provides the combination of intellect, political talent, creativity, character and plain old hard work that Hampton does.
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Hampton is a true progressive. He was brought up that way by parents who have always served the people of NC and the United States, and he continues to carry on that proud tradition himself. You will not need to worry about where Hampton stands. He stands firmly behind what will better the lives of every day North Carolinians. I believe that he understands the proper role of government and how it can be a force for progress in society.

He's also young. That is important. As a Democrat in his mid to late 30s, I'm frankly tired of the old boys network. It's time to begin to infuse the leadership of our party with new blood. Hampton Dellinger has worked at the Governor's elbow during the worst days of the fiscal crisis in 2001-2002. He knows the inner workings of government as well as people with 20 years on him. But he would be a fresh and exciting new face for the Democratic Party to show the world.

UNCW2000
...This person has built strong relationships accross the state while advising the Governor, and has worked with decision-makers of all groups ...and somehow can convince all parties to take the progressive step forward.

I am supporting Hampton Dellinger.

TrueMeckDem
I have met Hampton several times and had a chance to sit down with him and discuss his vision for our state. He is the real deal and I plan on voting for him.

He is strong on the environment and his ideas for what he wants to get done in the next four years are exciting. Check out his web page, it is a good one.

go-blue-dem
Dellinger's the one
I've known Hampton for years and strongly encourage anyone who doesn't already know him to look at his website and meet him in person. Hampton's a reliable progressive who can win the primary and win the general. He's done things like stand up to Blue Cross when it wanted to convert without setting up a charitable foundation -- that's doing the right thing, not taking the easy way out. Hampton would be a real champion for good, effective, responsible, responsive government. He's shown this by challenging state agencies when they've been slow to act on environmental issues or have wasted taxpayer money. The LG spot is where you want an energetic champion for effective government and progressive ideas...and someone who can play a real leadership role for Dems in NC into the future. Out of the Dems in the race, Dellinger's the one.

Fredly
Dellinger
I've met him and spoken to him. He seems really bright and tuned into activist concerns. He's also personable and energetic. His positions are progressive, he's experienced, and I got a really good vibe when I met him. He's genuine.

Betsy Muse
So far for me it's between Dellinger and Besse
They are the two I've met.....which means I haven't looked into it too much. I don't feel a sense of urgency to decide here because I feel all of them are qualified....

isabelabadone
Hampton Dellinger
There is no question in my mind that he is the best candidate, for a number of reasons many of which have been stated above.

Dan Besse

Bullydoc
...Advocate. Mediator. 25 years of solid service in the cause of clean air and water, women's and children's health and legal parity for the underprivileged. Simply the most informed candidate in the race on progressive issues and posessor of the mightiest skill set for achieving those goals through level-headed, hard-bore, solid and respectful reasoning and compromise. One of the smartest public servants the state has produced in a generation, Dan Besse may be the sort of thoughtful man who usually thinks better about entering the melee of politics but just can't see a better way to effect change...

captsfufp
...I think Councilman Besse is a true progressive voice for North Carolina.

Now, I'm probably more of a "conservative" Democrat than most people on here, but what impresses me about Dan is that he is able to talk progressively in a "pragmatic" sense. He's not just full of pie-in-the-sky ideas and cliches, but can really work to get things accomplished. I don't like going into "us" vs. "them" mentality, but I think it is fair to say that he is an outsider who would shake things up in Raleigh and in the state. He's traveled across the state and understands the issues of all of us.

He reminds me a little of Robert Kennedy by his early legal work with lower income individuals in the eastern part of the state. And he continues to be a leader in Winston-Salem on issues of the environment, city planning, and how we should treat all of our citizens. He's also very accessible, and I would think (hope!) that, unlike many politicians, he won't forget the people he represents after he is elected.

Sam Spencer
We need advocates for smaller towns and communities that get ignored in the legislative process. We need people who understand local government. We need people who want to be Lt. Gov., not AG or Governor. We need a leader who will do something productive with the office. We need balance with the Governor. We need a progressive. We need someone with a record; real, elected leadership experience or progressive credentials. Smathers and Besse are the only candidates in this race I could vote for.

Betsy Muse
So far for me it's between Dellinger and Besse
They are the two I've met.....which means I haven't looked into it too much. I don't feel a sense of urgency to decide here because I feel all of them are qualified....

crowbar317
I find myself firmly in the Besse camp.

lcloud
I've met Besse, Dalton, Dellinger, and Smathers. The only two I am supporting are Besse and Smathers, and I really don't know how I will vote yet.

Blue South

...an indication of what I think is that I started writing a response and its up to about 500 words.

I will just say that I support Pat Smathers because of him, his family, his message, his record and his ideas. I like Dan Besse, and I hope he ends up getting a bigger voice at some point in this state.

Drama Queen
Pat Smathers and Dan Besse are progressive enough for me. And Pat has amazing ideas. Go see him if you get the chance. He'll convince you. He's definitely someone we need to be utilizing at the state level. And he and his family are the real deal. He's not going to scare any good ole boys but he's nothing like them, either.

Besse is great, too, but a harder sell to swing voters.

In looking at the "endorsements" I can say that Dellinger had the least qualified endorsements, that is people who supported him were set in their support. Conversely, it seems like that with Besse and Smathers, the support is softer. They are in the running, but only a few people have locked-in to one of those two as their final choice.

At this point, I find myself straddling this divide a bit. Dalton is out of course, Dellinger is still in, and I'm finding myself now thinking mostly about Smathers as the "other" choice. No disrespect to candidate Besse, who has certainly earned my respect, but not my vote. Over the next month I plan on reading all I can about this race and making an informed choice, which I will share with y'all when I do. Until then, those who support Besse and Dalton, fire away!

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Robert P.'s picture

I'm off to the dentist, wish me luck.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Good luck!

Here's hoping you come back with even sharper teeth!

J

PS I'm hoping to stay out of at least one primary until pretty late in the game, though I have ruled out Dalton because of the performance of the NC Senate this past summer.

Robert P.'s picture

Well, that stinks,

my appointment isn't until Wednesday and they couldn't squeeze me in to their schedule.
One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Blue South's picture

I have to admit a bias

I have to admit a bias when I say the following, not just because I support Pat, but also because I talked to Zeb Smathers after Wayne's event in the 8th.

He brought up a great point, which is that our current Lt Gov has often used her office to focus on military issues. Our state has prided itself upon being a state friendly to the military, not with things like the OLF, but with focusing on providing the services to our veterans and military families that he federal government has failed to provide. I hope that we will begin providing these services on the federal level, but that is a hope. (One of the reasons I have such respect for Grier Martin has been his focus on these issues).

I believe that we must continue these efforts, and it is yet another reason why I think Pat is the better choice. He is the only candidate who has military experience. Remember too that our next governor will be in charge of our National Guard in the same way that the President is in charge of the military. Wouldn't it be nice to make sure that the person sitting next to them in meetings knows everything there is to know about the guard in our state?

"Keep the Faith"

Govs and the military

When was the last time we had a gov who had a military background?

I just wonder if this is important or not. Thoughts?

"jump in where you can and hang on"
Briscoe Darling to Sheriff Andy

Moore Served in WWII

"Daniel Killian Moore (April 2, 1906 – September 7, 1986) was the Democratic governor of the state of North Carolina from 1965 to 1969. Born in Asheville, North Carolina, Moore earned undergraduate and law degrees from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He practiced law in Sylva, North Carolina and served a term in the North Carolina House of Representatives in 1941 before entering the U.S. Army in World War II."

I personally don't think it is all that important to most voters these days. Politicians from the WWII cohort who didn't serve always went to great lengths to explain why they didn't serve. Today, some voters may admire those like Grier who have or are serving, but it's not anywhere close to a deal breaker.

Will post items from the Richmond Co. Democratic Dinner ...

... very soon on BlueNC. I've started with an initial posting at the Wayne's World blog (feel free to visit there), but will do a separate posting at that blog and on BlueNC regarding each Statewide candidate who either appeared or had a surrogate in person at the Morrison-Deane-Goodman Dinner last Thursday in Hamlet.

Frank Eaton's picture

64 percent.

The undecideds in this race are huge. There are six months to go.

Dalton will self-destruct. I've seen him speak, I've looked at the record...he will crack up. Literally. He talks like a crazy person. The nominee will be one of the other three and it will come down to record of service and message delivery.

This video is a sneak preview of what the folks who support Dan Besse with their hearts and time and energy are working on for this campaign. In the next six months you'll see North Carolinians you know speaking out for Besse in clips like these: unscripted and as honest-to-God intent on change as Dan is.

(This is just a work in progress and will come "un-posted" on the 'morrow---Frank)

Robert P.'s picture

Thanks a whole frickin' lot.

Now Dan is right back on my list. Sigh.

Okay, now I am going to dig and dig and dig into all three candidates all over again.

At some point, I have to ask myself about electability. But, not yet.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Frank Eaton's picture

Mission accomplished!

You know, Robert, the kids are out of school today. My son just got two hours of unbridled video game action while I worked frantically to drag you back into the undecided category!

But I want you to think about what just happened to your impression of Dan and imagine it happening (at different levels of success, of course) to democrats all over the state...

Now we can talk about electability.

Frank

That item was filmed at last week's Richmond Co. dinner ...

... we had more than 200 people at the dinner/rally and more than 150 at State Rep. Melanie Wade Goodwin's announcement kick-off beforehand. Candidates just plain flooded the place, which is a great thing for voter education, in my opinion, especially in the rural part of the 8th District.

Last year, just before the 2006 general election, more than 500 Democrats and unaffiliateds attended this Morrison-Deane-Goodman Democratic Dinner and Rally. Among those attendees were Dan Besse and Zeb Smathers (son of Pat Smathers), making them one of a handful of Statewide candidates who have attended BOTH years. Kudos to them, Insurance Commissioner Jim Long, Judge Linda Stephens, and Jerry Meek, among others!

Go to www.eighthdistrictdemsnc.blogspot.com for more info and photos ...

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Blue South's picture

Good for Dan and Zeb

But much more importantly, good for you.

Thanks for everything you do Wayne.

"Keep the Faith"

Great round up

Thanks.

A comment from the "no freakin' clue" peanut gallery

I know very little about any of the candidates, so I'm shooting in the dark. The only one I did some digging on, because of some comments here, was Hamp Dellinger.

I'll just say the stuff I read failed to win my vote. I'm not saying he was eliminated, but I was completely unstirred by his materials and arguments.

But his supporters speak very highly of him. I take that into serious consideration, so I'll continue to be open to his (and others) candidacies.

Here's another Durhamite

who is underwhelmed by Hamp Dellinger. There is just not enough there for me to put him in the top tier with Smathers and Besse.

It doesn't help his case that in my 20 years in Durham and being reasonably active in the community and the Democratic Party, I had never heard of him or anything he has done in Durham. I knew about his father, but not Hamp.

I met Smathers this summer

And I was very impressed with his sincerity. And his wife is very nice looking, too!

loftT's picture

I believe there will be a Lt. Gov forum at the PDNC Annual

Meeting on Dec. 8 in Chapel Hill:

2:15: Democratic Lt. Governor Candidates Forum

(The PDNC membership will decide whether to endorse in this race, and, if so, who to endorse at this time.)

sign up

Have you called to support H. Res 333 Impeach Cheney Today? call 202-224-3121 & ask for your Congress member by name

The link doesn't work.

Could you repost it?


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
Robert P.'s picture

Interesting. Is everyone coming?

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

loftT's picture

I would hope so but only 2 have signed on so far.

n/t

Have you called to support H. Res 333 Impeach Cheney Today? call 202-224-3121 & ask for your Congress member by name

loftT's picture

I'll try again,,,

linkworkdangya

nope, I had to fix it!!! - RP

Have you called to support H. Res 333 Impeach Cheney Today? call 202-224-3121 & ask for your Congress member by name

Robert P.'s picture

there was an extra > in the mix.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

I really would like to go to this -

And would hope that a lot of BlueNC folks would show. I'm not sure that PDNC has the first clue how to handle the interweb, and it might be that if a bunch of us show up, we could help with that. :)


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
Frank Eaton's picture

Please introduce yourself, BlueNC'ers...

I'll be the dork with the big camera.

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