Weekend Wound Up

A handful of BlueNC bloggers attended the UNC Science Blogging Conference yesterday, which appears to have been well worth the time. Look for reports over the next few days about what happened and why it matters.

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How many times does Mike Easley have to say "NO" to running for the United States Senate until another serious candidate steps in? Rumors abound that he said no at least five times last week alone.

By throwing her hat into the presidential ring, Senator Clinton has dived into a growing wave of antipathy unlike anything I've ever seen. This is exactly why I wrote this entry.

Headline contest. You've read a lot about the NC Capital Press Corps blackballing kmr because he hangs out with rabble-rousers at BlueNC. I'm looking for the perfect headline to summarize this miserable state of affairs. If you have ideas, please post them and we'll have a community vote later in the week. The winner will get 100 free BlueNC business cards! Void where prohibited by law.

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Ross : Black & Blue

Too simple?

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

I'm looking

At ice pellets bouncing off the deck.
Science Blogging is cool.
They have the best blog names: Cognitive Daily, Nanopolitan, Pharyngula

Their graphics are cool, too.

:)

Very cool names.

I was thinking the other day that if BlueNC were called something innocuous, all this press business would go away.

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“Don't tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I'll tell you what you value.”
― Joe Biden

TealNC?

Just a thought.

Cordon BleuNC

n/t

Interesting conversation on Kos

about Dole and Burr

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“Don't tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I'll tell you what you value.”
― Joe Biden

hmmmm

Anglico, are you aware that your link that ostensibly demonstrates "a growing wave of antipathy" towards Hillary indirectly takes people to Stop Hillary PAC.com? They have an interesting mission statement:

Those Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were the real heroes of the 2004 election.

We at the StopHillaryPAC want to do the same thing to Hillary: take her record - ever since she became a radical, America-hating lawyer at Yale Law School in the 1970's all the way through her years in Arkansas and the White House and now as a Senator - and use it against her.

I don't see how this demonstrates your point... The latest poll from the Washington Post shows her way, way ahead. Your not so subtle link to that right-wing hack of a website doesn't demonstrate anything empirical about the race...

"Repealing the estate tax is like choosing the 2020 Olympic team by picking the eldest sons of the gold-medal winners in the 2000 Olympics". - Warren Buffett

"Repealing the estate tax is like choosing the 2020 Olympic team by picking the eldest sons of the gold-medal winners in the 2000 Olympics". - Warren Buffett

2,640,000

Interesting that you zeroed in on one of more than 2 million hits in that Google search. And yes, of course I am aware of what I linked to.

The fact that the wackos are at the top of the list is somewhat beside the point. All I did was type in the words "stop Hillary."

Two million hits is pretty empirical in my book. Granted, many are to old sites and many are irrelevant, but your own comment about the right wing uproar further underscores my concern. There is nothing the Dems can do to bring reactionaries in the Party of Greed out in full force than to have Senator Clinton up against a Brownback or even a Rudy G.

If you accept the fact that healing this nation is one of the two most important jobs the next president must do, it's very hard to make the case that Hillary would be the ideal choice IMO.

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“Don't tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I'll tell you what you value.”
― Joe Biden

Healing this nation

must be near the top of our priorities. If Hillary makes it through the primaries and becomes the Democratic candidate, she will certainly have my enthusiastic support against any Republican on the face of the earth. But I can think of several other Dems who are better equipped to bring us together as a nation, promote peace within this country and internationally, lead us into a sustainable future, and address a myriad of other issues that have been neglected and swept under the rug during the Bush tenure. And I sincerely hope and believe that we can nominate a candidate who can do all that.

Well said.

Maybe you could start writing for me . . . it would save me a lot of time and be much more understandable to boot.

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“Don't tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I'll tell you what you value.”
― Joe Biden

Sorry then

It seemed to me you were linking to that site indirectly to put her candidacy down.

If you want to make the case that Hillary shouldn't be our nominee, the radical right fringe isn't the place to get your talking points.

She's polling better than anyone else and has a strong team. I think now is the time to give her, Obama, Edwards and everyone else a chance and hear them out.

Clinton left office with a 66% approval rating. Hillary could represent to people a return to better times and a way foward out of our foreign policy mess.

"Repealing the estate tax is like choosing the 2020 Olympic team by picking the eldest sons of the gold-medal winners in the 2000 Olympics". - Warren Buffett

"Repealing the estate tax is like choosing the 2020 Olympic team by picking the eldest sons of the gold-medal winners in the 2000 Olympics". - Warren Buffett

I surrender.

I cautioned myself to stay out of presidential politics discussions here at BlueNC, but I wasn't smart enough to heed my own advice.

Peace.

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“Don't tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I'll tell you what you value.”
― Joe Biden

Burke

I'm new to this site, so I may have missed out on the beginning of the press credentials saga, so forgive me. But here's my tuppence worth.

I don't think Kirk Ross likes me. Our spheres of activity overlap in Carrboro and Chapel Hill.

I don't think he liked my radio program, "The ESP Show," and I don't think he likes my blog, www.watch9.blogspot.com.

I don't think he likes what I say, or the way that I say it, or even the cologne that I wear - and we haven't even met.

I can't say that he's one of my favorites, either.

We have trouble in our own particular slice of heaven over here, with so-called 'progressives,' who don't act too much like progressives.

They're not very democratic, and they think it's ok to censor posts out of what appear to be open political forums.

I've raised questions about this. And I'm bound to say I've never heard Kirk argue against these seemingly unprogressive activities.

However. When something is wrong, it's wrong. Period. And 'good' men speak up.

To censor someone because you don't like them is wrong. Period.

To stand by when someone is censored just because they stand by when you are censored is wrong. Period.

I'll do what little I can in support of Kirk - even though he may not want the support from me. Simply because I was raised in the land of Edmund Burke - in fact, in his hometown.

Good luck Kirk. And good luck BlueNC.

Solidarity with the weak, the persecuted, the lonely, the sick, and those in despair.

Welcome

and thanks for weighing in. Fascinating comments.

Sounds like you know way more about Kirk than I do . . . which is why this is all so weird.

Kirk is posting here because we wanted more original news reporting, which should kick in once the legislature actually starts meeting this week. I don't know if he's a progressive, a liberal, a communist, a dogmatist, a socialist, an atheist, a pantheist or whatever. I just know he's a journalist - and that's exactly what BlueNC needs more of right now.

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“Don't tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I'll tell you what you value.”
― Joe Biden

He's a midwesterner :)



Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Burke

You might need to be more specific.

Simply because I was raised in the land of Edmund Burke - in fact, in his hometown

Many people, myself included, would consider Dublin to be Edmund Burke's hometown. I don't think you are trying to tell us you were raised in Ireland even though it was a part of the British Empire at the time.

Uh

Thanks. I think.
I've never met you and don't really have an opinion either way.
Never listened to ESP--so don't have an opinion there.
As for your blog, well, it's new. No real opinion there either.
Good luck with whatever it is you're doing. But please don't jump to conclusions about what I think about stuff I haven't written about, talked about or even thought about. It's kinda weird.

Billary?

Clinton left office with a 66% approval rating. Hillary could represent to people a return to better times and a way foward out of our foreign policy mess.

My husband and I, while we share very similar view points, have very different skill sets and different jobs. My point here? Hillary is not Bill. I think it's both short-sighted and just a little bit chauvinistic to equate them in this sense. I would hate to get a job because people think my husband is going to help me do it.

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

yes but seriously

In this situation Bill is very relevant to her run. Her experience as First Lady has also brought her a vast amount of knowledge that makes her more qualified for the job.

As for the chauvinistic charge, I might be eager to discuss/debate politics on a blog (shock) but sharing what I think is a realistic political observation doesn't make me a bigot.

If I said that Obama was likely to win a large portion of the black vote, would you say that I'm being a racist? I was making an observation about a political situation, not putting down women.

"Repealing the estate tax is like choosing the 2020 Olympic team by picking the eldest sons of the gold-medal winners in the 2000 Olympics". - Warren Buffett

"Repealing the estate tax is like choosing the 2020 Olympic team by picking the eldest sons of the gold-medal winners in the 2000 Olympics". - Warren Buffett

I am indeed serious

but I never called you a bigot. I said your statement was "short-sighted and a just a little bit chauvinistic."

See the difference? I focused on what you said, not who you are. Which, for what it's worth, is what we need to do with each of the candidates, no matter their gender, their race, or who is in their family.

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

Burke-ish

...and fascinating responses. Thank you.

Kirk, I was careful not to conclude, only to think - out loud. And I'm delighted that you tell me that I was thinking wrong.

I thank you for correcting me - where you did. And for not contradicting me - where you didn't.

Indeed, you plain had me at "thanks." And I thank you for your good wishes.

Greg, you are of course right - ish. Burke was Irish. And as such, at the time, sat in the House of Commons, in London.

When he did, he resided, for some while, in a small town to the west of London, called Beaconsfield, which is where I spent my early years.

I can see now why so many people find BlueNC invigorating.

Solidarity with the weak, the persecuted, the lonely, the sick, and those in despair.

I wish I found it invigorating

The past few days have flat-out kicked my butt into bumsville. It's a good thing tomorrow's a work day. Fighting against the man . . . in this case, the Big Media Monopoly of North Carolina . . . has worn me to a frizzle.

A

PS Actually, I usually do find it invigorating. This phase shall pass.

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“Don't tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I'll tell you what you value.”
― Joe Biden

Something we haven't talked much about

(at least, not that I've seen so far) is the question of whether BlueNC is an advocacy site. There was, I think, a part of the CPC's thinking that went along the lines "we deny credentials to advocacy organizations (we denied them to PopeCo) and so we deny them to BlueNC authors."

So one: are we an advocacy organization? And two: is that relevant, and if not, why not? (To rephrase question two, how upset would we be about denial of CPC creds to a journalist who was invited to and decided to post stuff at johnlocke.org?)

PS - I don't mean to suggest that the answers to these questions are easy (though I think that one is easier than the other), but I do think they may be important.

I don't see BlueNC as an advocacy site, per se

although many of us are quite vocal in our advocacy of different issues and candidates. This is a community where many people, most of whom openly claim the name of progressive or liberal, gather to share news, discuss issues, and even raise a little hell once in a while. While individual bloggers have urged advocacy for certain issues, I don't think BlueNC has ever said "BlueNC endorses..." or "BlueNC thinks X sucks eggs...." A better example of an advocacy site would be Progressive Democrats of America, that Anglico wrote about last night. There's a specific agenda, and platform. I can't imagine BlueNC ever having a specific agenda.

I believe pretty strongly in Freedom of the Press (note the capitalization, that's how strongly I believe in it.) I've got to say that if a journalist with credentials similar to Kirk's were to be denied press credentials based on his posting at johnlocke.org, I wouldn't be as vocal about it, but I'd be disturbed. The best way for democracy to flourish is with a truly free press with total (and equal) access. And I do consider Kirk a member of the press; his work is scrupulously referenced and researched. The fact that it is syndicated on a site that has a bunch of us posting our ideas and reactions to such articles should not stand in the way of his getting the credentials he should have to get his job done.

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi