Dole Does Something Decent

Wonder of wonders. The Very Senior Senator from North Carolina has finally done something worth a damn. Maybe she's just trying to make amends for screwing over the people fighting the Navy's OLF, but whatever her motivation, she's to be commended for taking action to get federal recognition for the Lumbee Indians.

WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole, following the footsteps of Rep. Mike McIntyre in the U.S. House, reintroduced the Lumbee recognition bill on Thursday.


Dole first introduced the Lumbee recognition bill in February 2003, soon after she was sworn in. The bill made it out the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs last year, but never made it to a floor vote. Dole's bill has two co-sponsors, Sens. Richard Burr of North Carolina, a Republican, and Daniel Inouye of Hawaii, a Democrat. McIntyre re-introduced the House version of the bill on Jan. 4.

The bill, if approved, provides $473 million to the tribe over four years for housing, education, health and economic development.

“For me, this issue has always been about fairness,” Dole said. “The Lumbees have waited more than 50 years to receive the federal recognition they deserve. I will continue to work with the Lumbees to resolve this issue.

For an issue that has "always been about fairness," Liddy Dole sure hasn't had much of a sense of urgency. She first introduced the bill four years ago in a Republican-controlled Congress where she was supposedly a hot shot rock star . . . and couldn't even get the bill to the damn Senate floor.


file this

under things to talk about incessantly down east during 2008.

"Keep the Faith"

If it's an issue of fairness

it takes Democrats at the helm to get real action. Between Dole's ineffectiveness and the lack of INC after the name Lumbee, nothing was going to happen for them.

Oh a side note....I'm shivering so hard I can barely type. I need to go check the thermostat. I think the man turned it down.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

failed promises

Dole was able to get Native American votes and volunteers in 2002, by pledging to help out the Lumbee.

5 years later, guess she has to show that she tried a little.

With her being the head of GOP Senate fundraising, one would think that she had an opportunity to gather votes to support this type of bill over the last 5 years

Thanks for that back-story

I can see the 2008 bumpersticker now:

Vote for Dole.
Incompetent. Incapable. Insipid.

Supposedly, Taylor worked against it

That's why the Eastern Cherokees supported the chain-sawed one so strongly. They didn't want the Lumbees to open a rival casino closer to Charlotte.

As I heard it (I never investigated it), he would introduce the bill in the House and then somehow make it not happen.
“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.”
So enjoy the Drama.

I wonder

There has gotta be something within the rules that would have allowed him to tie up something like that in committee. God only knows how it would work though.

"Keep the Faith"

I think he did something

involving a "table." You get credit for introducing the legislation and then you secretly play furniture games.

At least one Lumbee knew about it, too. A bunch of anti-Taylor letters written by a woman from Lumberton appeared in all the 11th District newspapers during Patsy Keever's campaign. That's how her staff figured out something was up.
“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.”
So enjoy the drama.

So Taylor Was Stronger Than Dole....

Senator Liddy was playing second banana to stroke-addled lumberjack House member?

The Lumbees ought to present Mrs. Dole with two books: one on congressional procedure and one entitled, "How to Win Friends and Influence People."

Scrutiny Hooligans -

Sounds like

the Lumbees need to call ACORN to find out how to present congressional "representatives" with awards.

Is there a way to thank someone for being both useless and a liar at the same time without having capitol security arrest you?

"Keep the Faith"

We could come up with an award and present it to them

online periodically. Something like the "Bush-Appendix" award...(only things I could think of that represent both liars and useless) Or we could just give her a Twinkie!

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.


Sounds like the GOP had the Cherokees working for their ticket in the west, and the Lumbees working for them in the east...and both groups were told a different story.

Get them to the polls, then push the straight ticket on them.

It would be interesting to see how the heavy precincts of Native Americans compared in 2002 v/s 2000.


but probably true. and more than a little sickening.

"Keep the Faith"

The Cherokee's helping who?

Umm as a member of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Nation in western North Carolina I believe that there is a huge misconception of my tribes’ intentions…..but hey when your dealing with Native American issues with people who aren’t even Native American themselves and who really don’t want to take up the time to understand the whole issue, what can you expect? Without the help of the Eastern Bands influential Tribal Council members Congressman Heath Shuler (who I gladly supported! Yay!) Would have never carried the Cherokee Reservation (roughly 12,000 votes). To say that the Eastern Band is a tool for the GOP is gross miscalculation (tell this to Speaker Nancy Pelosi who came to our Reservation and received a warm welcome by not only our Chief, and Tribal Council, but our people as well.).

can't speak for UNCW2000

but I took the comment to mean both tribes were being taken advantage of....not that the Eastern band was a tool.

Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

taking advantage

My post was to imply that it seemed that the GOP was possibly taking advantage of yet another group of voters.

I have great respect for all Native Americans.

The GOP is great at coming up with plans to gain support of a block group of voters, and not following through. (voters in certain regions, backgrounds, issues, etc)

I don't know about being a tool for the GOP

but I'd love to hear how the Eastern Band supported democratic congressional candidates in the years before Heath ran. As a Democrat who lived for 16 years in the 11th District, I've never heard of them being any kind of stronghold of democratic support.

Yes, Swain county votes democrat (barely), but so does neighboring Jackson. And its showing in 2006 was strikingly unimpressive compared to 2004. Swain County had one of the lowest increases in democratic congressional votes from 2004 to 2006 in the entire 11th district. Republican-voting counties like Polk, Henderson, Madison, McDowell, Haywood, and Henderson had vast improvement in comparison.

It shocked me because that's the county of Heath's birth. If he could only barely get more votes there in a Democratic year than Keever did in a Republican year, then somebody (or some thing) powerful was working against him.
“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.”
So enjoy the drama.

Here are the stats

Here's the numbers to support my comment. Swain is the county where the Eastern Band of Cherokees own land. I'm sure there are Cherokees in these other counties but I have no way to figure out which precincts.

Percentage democrat in 2004 vs. 2006:

  • Buncombe 47.7 40.9
  • Clay 62.5 53.3
  • Cherokee 64.3 50.1
  • Graham 66.9 54.8
  • Haywood 55.1 43.9
  • Henderson 62.1 54.9
  • Jackson 49.8 41.4
  • Macon 60.8 48.1
  • Madison 54.0 45.0
  • McDowell 65.8 52.2
  • Rutherford 61.6 51.6
  • Polk 56.6 45.4
  • Swain 52.0 49.5
  • Transylvania 55.5 46.9
  • Yancey 53.0 45.4

    Overall 54.9 46.3

Improvement by percentage point:

  • Buncombe: 6.8 points
  • Clay 9.2
  • Cherokee 14.2
  • Graham 12.1
  • Haywood 11. 2
  • Henderson 7.2
  • Jackson 8.4
  • Macon 12.7
  • Madison 9.0
  • McDowell 13.6
  • Rutherford 10.0
  • Polk 11.2
  • Swain 2.5
  • Transylvania 8.6
  • Yancey 7.6

Now, Henderson's rather modest improvement (still 5 points more than Swain) doesn't reflect its large population. But Swain is a small county by population, so it really doesn't look supportive for Heath if you compare it to the other counties. In fact, I'm guessing that Swain County's improvement was lower than the national average increase for Democrats. Something is not right there. Again, that's the county for whom Heath won three state football championships. Where's the love?

“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.”
So enjoy the Drama.

I thought the Cherokee

reservation exists in several counties, in parts of Swain, Jackson, and one or two others. It's my understanding that the land was purchased over time by Will Thomas and others, and put in trust for the Cherokee, who were not then allowed to own land in their own names, and the land is not all contiguous. Not sure how the numbers compare from county to county. Have you looked at racial identification of registered voters in those counties? That should be readily available from voter rolls.

Another question - do you think Taylor's vocal support for the road to nowhere had an impact on the Swain County result? Just curious.

I don't know

the reservation land history. I know there are some Cherokee who don't live on the reservation in Swain, Jackson, and Graham counties and elsewhere.

As to the "Road to Nowhere," I know local elected leaders were in favor of the settlement. I assume if there was a lot of disgruntlement with them, they would have suffered at reelection time.

As to election results, there is an SBOE investigation of voter intimidation by democrats . . . see today's AC-T article . . . and I know that in the past there has been complaints of corruption by local democratic leaders in the Smoky Mountain News. So, maybe the low results are a local backlash.

“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.”
So enjoy the drama.