The new Obama-centric DNC logo bothers me

Is anyone else besides me bothered by all the Obama-centric stuff coming from the DNC?

The new logo is a big and dark blue "O" with a small pale "D" in the middle, and "Change that matters" right alongside it.

"Vote 2010" has the Obama For America logo in place of the "O" in Vote. There is a "Vote 2010" sticker in the shape of a big "O" with Obama looking like the "man in the moon"!

Obama's not even on the ballot in 2010. Many other Democrats are on the ballot, so why does this GOTV effort have to be so Obama-centric? Polls are showing that Democratic candidates are trying to distance themselves from Obama. So is this really the best time to roll out a new logo that makes it look like the Democratic Party is only a small part of Barack Obama?

Or is this just the DNC wanting to give work to the guy who invented the "O" logo?


Seems off base to me

The design of the logo itself is lazy!

This is the oldest political party in the world. And all we could do for a logo was recycle the "O"? Lots of people are getting really sick and tired of the constant linking of Obama to damn near everything the Democratic Party does.

Did you see Bill Clinton doing that? Did you see him try to make a new DNC logo from the french-fries he pilfered from folks he met in Burger King or McDonalds? Did you see Jimmy Carter try and make a new logo with a peanut texture? Did JFK trying to remake the logo out of panties that Marilyn Monroe and Judith Exner left over at the White House?

I wouldn't mind this logo so much if I saw that Obama was asking his OFA volunteers to become part of the Democratic Party instead of trying to turn the Party into a 24/7/365 campaign field operation for Obama's 2012 re-election campaign.

I am tired of being seen only as an appendage of the campaign - like I have nothing to do but sit around with a wire up the kazoo waiting for a signal from Obama HQ to go out and do whatever they tell me to do - and nothing more!

Chris Telesca
Wake County Verified Voting

This is pretty telling, Chris

I am tired of being seen only as an appendage of the campaign

Attacking Obama or OFA or the NCDP or those in your immediate political vicinity ain't gonna butter your bread, if you catch my drift.

Here's a little Zen for you:

Before enlightenment: chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment: chop wood, carry water.

Maybe I don't want or expect my bread to be buttered?

Excuse me. I am a delegate and an elected precinct Chair in the Wake County Democratic Party, as well as an SEC member from Wake County.

I have every right to ask what the hell the elected leadership of my party thinks they are doing with the Party I am a member of. Cooperation is a two-way street. These heavy-handed tactics aren't working very well.

And remember OFA's track record: Enough votes to win the nomination, and win the general election - but just barely in NC. Two other statewide candidates got more votes in NC than Obama did.

And other than using OFA to beat more progressive candidates in primary elections, can you show me one election where OFA tactics have won an election for a Democrat against a Republican?

In elections against Republicans since November 2008, how have OFA tactics worked?

December 2008 GA Senate runoff - LOSS
2009 NJ gubernatorial general election - LOSS
2009 VA gubernatorial general election - LOSS (Tim Kaine was the previous VA gov)
2010 MASS Senate special election - LOSS

I've attended OFA meetings where the OFA staffers constantly harp on how OFA involvement decreased the margin of loss. I'd rather be bragging about how much we WON by!.

Chris Telesca
Wake County Verified Voting

Pasta Carbonara

I know this is an older custom, but ...

Rhodes Pasta Carbonara

1 Pound Applewood Bacon sliced thin
1/2 Pound Asiago Cheese
1/2 Heavy Cream
1/2 Pound Parmigiana Reggiano
4 Eggs
2 Pounds Spaghetti Pasta
Olive Oil


1. Grate the cheese, and add it to a stirring pan.
2. Heat a pan up to medium, adding a small amount of olive oil. Tear the bacon into 1 sq inch bits and begin frying in the pan. At the same time, bring a slightly salted pot to a boil; add all of the pasta.
3. While the bacon and pasta is cooking, beat all four eggs into the cheese; add herbs and spices to your taste. Eggs and cheese should be well mixed. Add 1/2 cup of heavy cream and mix again.
4. When pasta is done, strain the pasta, and return it to the pot with the smallest amount of water at the bottom. The burner should be turned off.
5. Add the grease from the bacon to the pasta in the pot at the same time as the egg/cheese mixture. Two people should pour so that the substances meet. Mix the two with the pasta for a few seconds, then add the bacon.
6. Stir well; serves 5-6. Works well with fried cherry tomatoes.

The Democrats are not going to lose an election because of a logo.

Concern trolls, OTOH, are another matter.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

I feel that the whole DNC logo issue is the tip of the iceberg

Shouldn't members of a party who are also delegates to the party have some say in the direction of the party? I prefer the strategy of Howard Dean: If you want to take back your country, you first have to take back your party.

I mean for Pete's sake - if we have to go amend the Plan Of Organization to change how we hold precinct meetings, I would think that matters like deciding if OFA gets to run the whole show also ought to be decided by the deliberative body. No one voted to let Barack Obama or his staff to turn the Democratic Party into the 2012 campaign field operation.

And the whole thing about going and helping a candidate is a good suggestion, but does it really make sense for one volunteer for each candidate to all be standing outside of a precinct polling place asking voters to vote for them? Not very efficient use of manpower.

What ought to be done is have one big coordinated campaign for every Dem on the ballot, run and coordinated by experienced Party - not run by a bunch of kids who are trying to polish their resumes for bigger and better paying jobs on campaigns or staffs.

I just don't see anything in the Plan of Organization that dictates that we let the campaigns run the show and turn the party into nothing more than an appendage of the campaigns.

We should be working to organize more precincts and get more people to attend more precinct meetings and get them to be delegates and take more ownership of the party. Instead, it seems that the candidates are hell-bent on alienating voters, driving them out of organized parties and becoming more UNA voters. That puts the emphasis on the campaigns and not on the party.

Chris Telesca
Wake County Verified Voting

I must agree with the OP

I just received a communication from NCDP that really highlighted just how pervasive this OFA infiltration is. It feels like the NCDP is now an auxillary organization to the Obama campaign. Nothing against the Obama campaign, but the Democratic Party has been around a long time and has no business being relegated to second fiddle status by any campaign.

I actively oppose gerrymandering. Do you?