Religious freedom for me, not for thee

The Christian enclave County of Rowan wants to keep Jesus running things in Commission meetings:


Whereas, the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States reads:"…Congress shall make no law respecting an Establishment of Religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;…"; and Whereas, this prohibition does not apply to states, municipalities, or schools; and Whereas, in recent times, the federal judiciary has incorporated states, municipalities, and schools into the Establishment Clause prohibitions on Congress, blah blah blah

Only in the mind of a Republican could trying to stop people from stopping you from cramming your beliefs down their throat be considered a defense. This is really a defense against a justifiable lawsuit:

The American Civil Liberties Union and ACLU of North Carolina Legal Foundation (ACLU-NCLF) filed a federal lawsuit yesterday on behalf of three Rowan County citizens, demanding that the Rowan County Board of Commissioners stop its unconstitutional practice of opening government meetings with prayers that are specific to one religion.

The complaint, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of North Carolina, details how more than 95 percent of board meetings since 2007 have opened with prayers specific to one religion, Christianity.

The commissioners, who deliver the prayers themselves, routinely call on Jesus Christ and refer to other sectarian beliefs during invocations. Opening invocations have declared that “there is only one way to salvation, and that is Jesus Christ,” as well as given thanks for the “virgin birth,” the “cross at Calvary,” and “the resurrection.”

Frankly, that bores me to tears just reading it. With the possible exception of "Snake-Handling Wednesdays", I'd probably sleep through the whole thing anyway.


To Evangelicals, 'cramming' their Religion is their job.

By definition, the religion practiced by Evangelicals demands they try everything to bring you into their church, as a favor to you, of course, whether you know better or like it (yet) or not. They practice outreach, mostly very politely, and only when socially effective, but it is their focus. They have good hearts, and mean well.

This is OK with me, I am an adult, and can defend myself just fine, thank you very much.

The problem here is that these particular Evangelicals are inserting their religious practice into a governing event, a County Commissioners Meeting. People attending a government function should not have to listen to individual Commissioners speaking about their personal religion, much less hear them practice it, when those Commissioners happen to be serving in their elected posts. This is highly inappropriate. No one attending a government meeting should have to hear proselytizing first. Some may even find the selected religion offensive.

Also, I believe passing this Resolution comes awful close to establishing "an establishment of religion" which is a clear violation of the First Amendment, god bless it forever. Religion has no place at a County Commissioners' Meeting.

If this passes, and the next Rowan County Chair happens to worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster, how fast will this be withdrawn?

A backhanded attempt

I think everyone missed what was really going on here. The language of the resolution led me to think that the Rowan Commissioners - and the Republicans connected with this resolution - was trying to set up the state of North Carolina as a party in the ACLU's lawsuit.

Bringing prayer back into schools has been a big thing among extremist conservatives for years. To me, this looked like a backhanded attempt to pull the state into backing these kinds of frivolous lawsuits. The intent, I think, wasn't so much to establish a "state religion", as it was to shift some of the monetary burden of the legal costs from the county to the state.

That seems likely to me

Thanks for taking a thoughtful look at what seems to be a likely part of this bizarre turn of events.

Another possibility is that Tillis told these clowns to go forth and do something extraordinarily stupid so he could shut it down, thereby proving that he's not as bat-shit crazy as the extremists surrounding him.

I think

I think you give Tillis a bit too much credit James. He's not that bright.


"...the question is not whether we will be extremists, but what kind of extremists we will be."

Martin Luther King, Jr., Letter from Birmingham Jail