Yes, as a matter of fact, the sky is falling.

Fellow North Carolinian James Hrynyshyn (pronounced James "H") has written an alarming piece about an alarming discovery. The Arctic summer sea ice was supposed to last until 2040, which gave us time to fix things, at least a little bit. Now, it looks like it will be gone by 2020.

I will leave it up to James to give you the whole story, but below the fold are a few puckering blockquotes. I'm off to Dick's Sporting Goods to buy a kayak and life vests.

James points out that the initial finding was greeted with some scoffing and frump-frump-frumping.

As MSNBC's Alex Johnson reported,

"What's happening to the Earth as a whole is a catastrophe, and the disappearance of Arctic sea ice has got to be one of the first indicators of the catastrophic changes," Wadhams told ITN's Lawrence McGinty. "It's something we can see. We can see it from space - the Arctic pack ice is there, it's white, and soon it won't be there."

Sounds bad, but it was the death of two Royal Navy sailors during Wadham's submarine expedition that attracted more attention that his scientific findings. And what little reporting there was tended to add the usual skeptical observations, such as this one

Walt Meier, a research scientist at the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the University of Colorado, called Wadhams' 13-year projection "extreme, but not completely implausible," and cautioned that the thinning could simply be the result of "compression of thicker ice into a smaller region."

So, do you want to make a bet about who was right, the alarmist or the skeptic?

In a slightly ironic twist, however, it was Meier's own National Snow and Ice Data Center that later helped confirm those overly pessimistic findings, which received much more media attention yesterday and today.

I suggest that you all take a meander over there to read the entire story.

Comments

Holy crap

This is bad. Very bad. If you like going to the beach, go a lot, and go soon. But don't buy any property there.

And if you like eating, you should go ahead and do that, too. Because as bad as we have screwed up the climate, food is another one of those little necessities that will be harder to come by as farmers deal with shifing weather patterns.

Hey Robert - while you are at Dick's, can you swing by the Kroger for milk and bread?

Oh, and you might need a malaria shot, too. The mosquitos are coming, and they mean business.

Hey...no need to go to the beach

My friend Mo is gonna be ocean front soon.

Hey Mo...got room for visitors? :)

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Plenty, bring you bathing suits and sun block

we already have the sand!

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Oh No! I forgot! What about Nanistan!



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Me before Mo

n/t

Lovex7

I may never come home

So far I will be spending time with Susan, Love, Mo and if I get stranded I might be able to hitch a ride on the floating land of Nanistan.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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sounds like a party!

too bad the price of that party is so high.
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My darling girl, when will you understand that 'normal' isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage." - Alice Hoffman, Practical Magic

Saw a teaser on CNN earlier

someone is going to expose the reason behind the bushbots bashing of Climate change....maybe it will be an eye opener for those who still have their heads stuck up the south side of a north facing shrub.

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

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OLF problem solved

It will be under water

Pssst

Arctic sea ice is already floating. While a catastrophe, it's disappearance won't raise sea levels.

These are the kind of sloppy assertions that let the skeptics get away with picking at the margins and claiming they debunked Global Warming.

When Greenland goes, THEN we've got a flooding problem.

Now, melting of Arctic sea ice could cause a change in the thermoclines, which would affect the ocean's currents. THAT would suck.

"85% of Republicans are Democrats who don't know what's going on." -Robert Kennedy, Jr.

"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire

Not sure I understand.

it's floating, which means a bunch of it is above sea level, while much of it is below sea level.

It all melts. Sea level goes up, no?

The melting of the polar ice sheet

is like the melting of the ice in your glass of tea. It does not change the level in your glass. But is sure messes up the flavor.

Of course, the polar ice sheet reflects sunlight & heat, while open water absorbs the heat, so melting of the Arctic ice will just speed up the melting process of the land-based ice.

Land-based ice sheets on Greenland and the Antarctic are the big enchiladas when it comes to sea level change. When they go, the sea level change will be measured in meters, not inches.

New York will become New Venice.

Did you read the article?

The problem is the amount of heat that will no longer be "bounced" back, but will be absorbed. This will increase the rate of heating. In addition, as mentioned below it will mess up the osmolarity and such.

One man with courage makes a majority.
- Andrew Jackson

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

And While the Wankers are Worried about the Math

they neglect the positive feedback loop.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a garden to tend to -
... if I can only find some bees ... ... ...

oh, yeah....about those skeptics ... they'll never change their minds; global warming will continue to be a myth until Miami is under water.

I know - my own mother is one of those skeptics, 'Al Gore isn't a scientist,' she says. To which I reply, 'BUT I AM A SCIENTIST, doesn't my degree count for anything?'

She shut up but it didn't change her mind. Mind like a steel trap, that woman. Slammed shut.

When my parents were alive

I could never talk with them about anything related to politics. They weren't around to be Bushbots, but if they both hadn't died, they would have been, hook, lying and sinker.

We gave my parents "An Inconvenient Truth"

as a thank you gift for having us all up there last month. I know my mom will buy it, it's my Dad that I wonder about.

One man with courage makes a majority.
- Andrew Jackson

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

I Told Her She Didn't Have to Read the *&^% Book

Just look at the pictures.
Read the graphs.
Look at the charts.

Glaciers - and now there are no glaciers.
Lakes - and now there are no lakes.
Inland seas - and now the inland seas are gone.

This is one subject where I'd really rather not say, 'I told you so.'